It’s been a rather insightful week on the Preterist Power Hour as we have been looking at the beginning of our Bible (Genesis) in light of what we know about “the end”. We welcomed Tim Martin, co-author of Beyond Creation Science, on the podcast on Monday, 2/14. You can review that session at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SRVfNWMdOw
Tim explained to us the history behind the “Covenant Creation view”, how and why it came about, and how it reveals with clarity the consistency of the Biblical narrative. Ultimately, Tim highlighted that, “What Genesis is about is the the Gospel of Jesus Christ”
On Tuesday, 2/15, Pastor Michael Miano shared thoughts, outlines, and resources regarding Genesis chapter 1 and welcomed comments, critique, and thoughts that may carry the hermeneutic forward. You can listen to that podcast at the following link (and of course consider the resources mentioned below), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW6BmKtaS0w&t=22s
- MGW Genesis resources:
– Authentic Spirituality: Through the Lens of Genesis Chapter 1
– Genesis 1 Detailed – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/genesis-1-detailed/ (Aug. 2016)
– Outlining the Creation Account – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2018/02/01/outlining-the-creation-account-genesis-chapters-1-3/
– 2015 Sermon on Gen. 1 – https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/248172-returning-to-our-first-love-genesis-1-2?fbclid=IwAR0HAQfBAjucRaLPJCobf2KAUafpZTCI5Gf9zrz0Ie71j8AwVEg388iyCt0
– Beyond Creation Science study – outlines & video teachings/discussion
– 2018 Sermon – The Genesis of Genesis – https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/620385-thinkingthruscripture-the-genesis-of-genesis
– 2018 Sermon on Genesis 1- https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/624716-thinkingthruscripture-creating-sacred-space-genesis-1
On Wednesday, 2/16, Tim Martin was able to rejoin us to further outline and talk through “Covenant Creation”, as well as bring us through the 7 – day ANE temple text found in Genesis chapter 1 (and of course he explained what that is). Review that podcast at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-bhqlLO1r0
Tim outlined Genesis chapter 1 and explained that “Genesis is a prophetic prologue to ‘covenant history’. He also mentioned John Walton’s book, The Lost One Of Genesis One, to be “Like a companion to Beyond Creation Science”.
John Walton’s book, The Lost World of Genesis One
See Michael Miano’s review of the book – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/the-creation-question-that-needs-to-be-answered-review-of-john-waltons-book-the-lost-world-of-genesis-one/
On Tuesday, 2/22, Tim Martin graciously joined us again for another Preterist Power Hour focused on Preterism & Genesis Creation. You can watch the podcast at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vKWHCsab8M&t=4298s
Tim alluded back to his outlining the “7 prophetic days” of creation and mentioned that there are a variety of studies/outlines available online that lean into that, however he mentioned nothing has been done to bring all the different views on Genesis 1 together (I mentioned some resources in my blog on this topic pasted last week – www.mianogonewild.wordpress.com) . Tim went on to explain that much of what he has developed in regards to a “symbol package” began with reading resources from James B. Jordan and discussions with Norm Voss. Tim explained that each day of Genesis prophetically points to an ‘epoch in covenant history’ (“each day is packed with info”). He also offered an analogy of a blooming rose to best depict the maturation that is happening in prophetic Genesis and the rest of the Biblical narrative.
There really was a wealth of information brought up on this podcast, so much that can be used for further study and review. Some of that information includes:
- “The 10th man”, a covenant picture (cf. Noah, Abraham. Etc)
- Day 4 of Genesis & Jonah
- The book of Daniel and the 10 commandments
I appreciated how Tim ended his time with us by marking out 3 false assumptions that will hinder you from gaining a healthy understanding of what is being detailed in the early chapters of Genesis:
1.) Demanding that we are read “raw history of material events” in Genesis 1
2.) Asserting that Adam and Eve are the only humans in involved in the Genesis 1-2 narrative
3.) Presuppositions that make the subject of “Genesis creation” about the material universe
On Thurs., 2/24, we continued the conversation of Genesis with Tim Martin, building on what was already established for the last 2 weeks or so. Consistently following the prophetic/apocalyptic style of early Genesis (as already established), Tim brought us into Genesis 2:5 and forward – “God’s Garden”. Tim surely outlined quite a bit for each of us to note and chew on (podcast link will be provided below), however I was able to jot down some summarizing notes to share.
Tim said, “The garden is the Adam’s just being born” (building upon what he had previously noted about the story we are reading being ‘a maturity story’). I appreciated that Tim began with asserting that we must gain healthy theology first (what the text says), then go about application (otherwise we run the risk of not paying heed to Proverbs 3:5-6). Tim further demonstrated correlating prophetic texts to help us interpret the language of Genesis 2. For example, “naming” in Genesis 2:19 connects with Daniel’s wisdom in Daniel chapters 7-8. This demonstrates the “covenant mission” of having dominion and “renaming” the ‘beasts of the field’. Prophetic indeed! Tim highlighted other texts that use green imagery and ‘tree talk’ such as Isaiah chapters 6, 10-11, Ezekiel chapter 31, and Revelation chapters 21-22. Furthermore, Tim urged us to “rely upon the theology of Jesus to help us decipher the garden scene (in Genesis)”. We looked at John chapter 1, and Tim also took us to various accounts in the Gospels regarding “covenant creation” in the ministry of Christ (such as the temptation of Christ and the cleansing of the Temple).
Tim mentioned a message he presented titled, “The Promised Land of Lot”. You can listen to the audio at the following link (and at the link after that you can find the PDF notes that Tim had shared);
Again these are simply my (Michael Miano) summary notes. Tim surely shared a lot and the podcast is worth listening to yourself. You can do so at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvm_VZstEXQ
Covenant Creation Conference(s):
- 2006 – 2006 Bible Conference in Sparta, N.C. – First public discussion of the concept and ideas of the new Beyond Creation ScienceBeyondCreationScience.com
- July 2007 – http://www.newcreationministries.tv/conference-messages.html
- 2008 – http://beyondcreationscience.com/index.php?pr=PE_TruthVoice_2008
- 2009 – PDF files / YouTube link
- 2010 – https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sCB0s5NKKrJZQKn3bMmU51T5yZ8QNgoQ
Keep an eye out for the update of this blog when we hopefully obtain the sermons Tim had delivered at Covenant Community Church years back.