Christ & The Kingdom in Psalms & Proverbs (2019 NCMI Conference)

NCMI Conference SpeakersLast week, New Creation Ministries International (NCMI) hosted a conference focused on “Christ and the Kingdom in Psalms and Proverbs” in Temecula, California. Mr. Ward Fenley, was the host speaker and there was a variety of other speakers such as Mrs. Kari Birks, Pastor Tony Gallop, Mr. Todd Williams, Pastor Michael Miano, Pastor Steve Salomon, and Ms. Wendy Birks. A blessed and insightful time it was.

In this blog, I desire to not only share links and pictures to help you be blessed and edified, but also to share some of the notes I took during the conference.


TODD WILLIAMS, Ps. 102; 22; 89; 145
(A New People) –

Kingdom – a realm associated with or regarded as being under the control of a particular person or thing. We are discussing the reign or authority of God. A reign that knows “no end” (cf. Luke 1:33; Ephesians 3:21). A king or kingdom must have servants.

Our kingdom talk is about the house-temple-kingdom of God and its transition from old to new. When we study through the transitions we find an old and new – temple, stones, city, Jerusalem, and mountain. “One promised life, one is life; one came with observation, one comes without”.

Psalm 102:18; Psalm 22:30-31; Psalm 89:3-4; Psalm 102:28

Old = Exodus 19:6   New = 1 Peter 2:19
Psalm 90 declares the Lord is our dwelling place.


WARD FENLEY, Ps. 69 (Pt. 1)
(The Thoughts of Jesus in the Psalms) –

Two cautions – be aware of the “unfulfilled Kingdom approach” when reading Scriptures and keeping us waiting or expecting things we already have (ex., praying the Lord’s Prayer) and the approach of discarding things that have been provided for us in the Kingdom (ex., “Israel-Only view).

Social action needs sound theology.

The goal of our theology: joy, gratitude, developing a heart of study, to love more

Thy Kingdom came – Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Colossians 1:13

Luke 24:25-27, 44-17 – “God has the best hermeneutics”; “God is a God who reveals”.

Romans 15:8-12; Acts 13:32-35

When we examine Psalms we are looking for who He is and what He does.  In relation to the anticipated Kingdom:
– Pharasaic motifs (wicked, enemies)
– Kingdom prophetic elements and motifs
– Tongues motifs
– The humanity of Christ (“We must acknowledge Christ’s humanity to better express His kingdom on earth”)

Psalm 69 (and other correlating Psalms) – Ward mentioned “reading with a new paradigm”.
v. 4 cf. John 15:25
v. 21 cf. Matthew 27:34
v. 22-23 cf. Romans 11:9-10
cf. Jeremiah 30:9; Ezekiel 34:23-24

“We are in a beautiful place (Kingdom of God), but it doesn’t always feel like it”.


TONY GALLOP, Ps. 63 (Pt. 1)

We must discern “things that are seen” (types and shadows) with things that are “not seen” (Spiritual).
Proverbs 2 – “searching for Wisdom”; “Through our searching He reveals Wisdom to us”.

Romans 1:18; 2 Corinthians 4:8 – We learn and discern and “covenant creation”; the Scriptures detail the beginning and the end of the Old Covenant tabernacle system; the Levitical priesthood to be a type and shadow of Christ in us.

Psalm 63
v. 2 – – Tony challenged us, “What did he (David) see in the Sanctuary?”
– Brief review of Levitical priesthood in Leviticus chapters 8-9.
– “wilderness talk”; When was the Lord in the wilderness of Judea? Satan wanted to see a sign. Who in that generation wanted to see a sign? Who is this Satan being destroyed?
– David saw, “the fire and sacrifice consumed” (accepted!)


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“Learning to rest and just be”.
Matthew 11:28-30
“Nothing refreshed my soul more than growing in my understanding of God’s kingdom established by grace…and resting in it with no but’s attached”.

Colossians 2:8-10
“…you have been given fullness in Christ”.

Cf. 1 Corinthians 2:2; Hebrews 13:9; 1 John 4:10-13; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57

“Sometimes I feel like an afterlife agnostic”.


(Life NOW in His Kingdom) –

Kari provided the written outline for her presentation which you can read through at the following link,

Psalm 21:2 cf. Psalm 16:11

Kari mentioned being blessed by Jeff McCormack’s message at Berean Bible Church this past April on humility and insights from Margaret Barker on John 17:19. “Margaret Barker, Hebrew & Greek scholar, has suggested that v. 19 is better translated as Jesus saying, “For their (the disciples) sake, I make myself holy, that they themselves also may become divine.” Participation in the divine. What did Peter mean when he said, “For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.?” What does it look like for us to be partakers in the divine nature? Brothers & sisters, we are so much more than we perceive ourselves to be. We need to meditate upon these things and see Christ’s prayer answered in our individual lives where He asked the Father to “sanctify them and us in the truth.” Who are you in truth? This thread of thought explodes with even more clarity as Jesus continues His requests to the Father.”

“I submit to you, we are where He is”.

Psalm 21:3 cf. Hebrews 9:11

Inaccurate Eschatology causes us to: Wait for a King, who already reigns, Wait for a kingdom, we’re already in, Wait to become, what we already are,  Wait for power, that we already have, Wait for an Age, that we’re already in, Wait for victory, that has already been won, Wait to do, what we should already be doing.” – Nathan Edward Camacho



Wendy focused us in on the various ways to approach the text – divine (prophetic text), David’s struggles, and personal. She highlighted correlations to Eve in the Garden of Eden and the Melchizedek priesthood.

She created a contrast between the ways the ancients viewed the gods (angry) and their necessary appeasement versus the Biblical view of God, a loving, welcoming, fellowship based God.

Wendy mentioned a resource, Kingdom of Priests by Eugene Merill. Here is a link to that resource,

In Scripture, “God seems to do something better than He did before”.

Wendy gave ideas pertaining to the ‘bene Elohim’ in regards to other gods. Seems to be in line with the Divine Heavenly Council view – “little g gods”.

Wendy seemed to believe some can claim “Jewish heritage” today, and highlighted that the “nations coming in is speaking to us”. This seemed to be a Dispensational view and future discussions should be had in that regard.

Hebrews 1:8 – “upright”
– make just
– to do or accomplish something without delay


TONY GALLOP, Ps. 63 continued

  • Our God is a consuming fire.
    4:24/ John 4:24

Throughout the Biblical story, God worked through wicked men to accomplish His purpose.

Remember Leviticus chapters 8-9 (from previous message), “The fire on the altar was to burn continually”. In Solomon’s temple the fire was re-ignited. Today, in an application manner, we are involved in keeping that fire burning.  “The 1st century was the beginning of offering up Spiritual sacrifices”.

Jesus was to baptize with “fire and Spirit”. The burning up of the wheat and the chaff was Jesus’s work in His people. Cf. Romans 15:16; Acts 2:1; Malachi 3:2; Jeremiah 3:29. Christ is the High Priest always keeping the fire lit.

“We are nothing (chaff) all good (wheat) comes from Him!”




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WARD FENLEY, Ps. 69 continued

Define text, context, and intertext

Psalms 69:1-3 cf. Psalms 40:1-3; 6:6-8; 109:25: 51; 102; 147:12-13; 90:16-17; 91:14; 22:6-8; 31:11; 41:9; 55:12-14; 27:9; 31:5; 71:23; 142:4; 40:17; 14:34; 109:22; 38:8-9; 96:11; 98:7-8;

“Christ first experienced whatever you have in Him”.

“Personification and Solidarity”
Hebrews 10; Lamentations 1
Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:15; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Isaiah 53:3

Book recommendation –

“Be acquainted with His humanity because He was very much acquainted with yours”.

Isaiah 32:17-18 – “The work of righteousness”.
Quietness and confidence; nature should remind of us the beauty we possess in Christ.

“When I am grateful I am less anxious”.

Our sacrifice in Him – Hosea 14:2; Hebrews 13:15; Psalm 69:30-31

Further study – go through the Psalms and mark out studies on “enemies”, “reproach”, “wait for the Lord”. And read these with a Messianic focus.





What’s Next – 2019 Conference Review

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Last week we had our 6th Annual Bible Conference at the Blue Point Bible Church. Pictures are still be uploaded, many of us are still relishing the fellowship that was had, and prayerfully, reviewing our notes and uploaded videos from the conference. As is my usual custom, I’d like to share some of my notes from the messages and of course provide links for your viewing pleasure.

Also, you can find the Facebook group designed just for this conference at the following link,



Conference Opening


Mr. Ward Fenley, New Creation Ministries International  –

  • “Psalms are Jesus’ thoughts while He was on earth”.
  • Read Psalm 145 and consider the Kingdom.
  • There is no “scuba-diving” in the Kingdom of God. (cf. Micah 7:19)


Mr. Holger Neubauer, Lakeshore Church of Christ

  • In Joshua 5, Joshua meets a man (Christology)
  • “All the “ologies” must be found in the Old Testament”
  • “The OT is not willy nilly mentions of Jesus, rather it is an outline of eternal Messianic work”.
  • “OT understanding clarifies what Jesus meant”.
  • Joshua 5:2 – circumcision “again” – soteriology – Col. 2:11-12; Mark 16:16; Acts 8:35 – 36
  • “Jesus connected belief and baptism to the Gospel”. (cf. Mark 16:16)
  • Joshua 5:9 – after the 40 year period (transition)
  • Joshua 5:12 – “The manna ceased…” (Holger explained that the miracles cease when they get into the land, many see “different miracles” happening in the land).
  • “Preterists are the only ones who take the Lord’s Supper with the proper attitude”
  • “The Spirit speaks expressly, the Holy Spirit teaches with words”.


Michael Miano reads thoughts from Mr. Larry Siegle of Fulfilled Dynamics –


Rev. Charles Hallford, Gospel Ministerial Alliance

Deacon Edward Silsbe, The Blue Point Bible Church

Apostle Johnny Ova, Sound of Heaven

Pastor Steve Schilling, The Blue Point Bible Church

  • Acts 16:25-34
  • “Sir, what must I do to be saved?”; “And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house”.
  • What’s next? A step back and looking at ourselves and allowing the Lord Jesus to go before us.
  • Jeremiah 9:24; 1 Corinthians 1:31; 2 Corinthians 10:17
  • John 17:3 – Eternal Life
  • John 1:18; John 3:14-15; 1 Cor. 2:12-16; John 4:24
  • “Is it wrong to think?”
  • What’s next? That they all may be one and that we die to ourselves to Christ lives through us!


Mr. Glenn Hill, author of Christianity’s Great Dilemma

  • Revelation 21:2-6, 10, 17, 21-27 – New Jerusalem
  • Specific text – Revelation 21:25 – “Her gates shall never be shut”
  • “What’s next for Preterism? Perhaps is should be evangelism”.
  • “His great priority” – seek and save the lost
  • John 14:2; Galatians 4; Hebrews 12:18 – “Relationship – the place we live – in the Father”
  • “Help me to move the unredeemed from the back burner to the front burner”.


Here is some Q&A with various speakers on various topics


Get your copy and watch Peacemakers: Crossing the Divide at the following link,


Of course we also had skits and antics by Herman & Nudix. Here are a few links to those videos:

Friday Night Game Show –

Batman & Robin Whack King James –

Batman & Robin Find A Bomb at Burger King –


Sunday Worship Service

Opening Worship, Exhortation, and Special Music –

Pastor Michael Miano, What’s Next? Our Latent Potential –

“Last Days DVD Series” Outline – Dr. William Bell

For the past few months we have been reviewing Dr. William Bell’s video series on the “Last Days” in our Saturday morning Bible study at The Blue Point Bible Church. Below I will share notes from each week’s study for the review and edification of others. The goal would be to watch the series, utilize the notes for an outline, and for each student to be able to explain the concepts behind each video – What would happen when Shiloh comes? What’s the Song of Moses detailing about the “last days”? What eschatological significance can we gain from learning about Zion? What was and is the consummated work of the eschatological Spirit?

Video 1 – Until Shiloh Comes

  • Protology (the study of beginning things) and eschatology (the study of last things) are intimately connected. Both require HERMENUETICS of AUDIENCE RELEVANCE & TIME STATEMENTS.
  • Jeremiah 31 cf. Hebrews 8:6
  • What we need is to develop an “Old Covenant GPS” – “God has laid everything out”
    Genesis 49; Deuteronomy 31-32; 1 Samuel 8
  • Bell outlined a narrative understanding from Genesis to 1 Samuel chapter 8.
  • “Every time Christ was offered “earthly rule”, He refused, because it was seen as rejected the rule of God”.


Video 2 – Song of Moses

  • Genesis 49:10 – “The scepter will not depart from Judah” (last days prophecy)

Dr. Bell begins to “Recap history and pull in prophecies”.
721 BC – Hoshea leads Israel (10 northern tribes) into idolatry (cf. 2 Kings 15:30; 17:1-6)
“Israel is swallowed up of the Gentiles”  – Jonah, Hosea
Deut. 24:1-5; Jeremiah 1:8 (God divorces Israel)

  • “Peace that abides in the Kingdom of God is not the absence of military conflict (cf. Isaiah 32:15-20)”.
  • Peter quotes Hosea as being fulfilled in his day (cf. Hosea 1:9-10; 2:23; 3:5 cf. 1 Peter 2:9-10
    “Israel’s soteriology”
  • Hosea 5 – Israel torn by lion and dies. Cf. Hosea 13 – how did Ephraim die and sin no more?
  • Judah ( 2 southern tribes) fails to learn from Israel’s (10 northern tribes) judgement.
    (cf. Isaiah study)
  • A Kingdom picture
    Jacob – Gen. 49:10
    Moses – 1500 BC – Deut. 31-32
    King Saul and King David – 1 Samuel 8
    Split in Kingdom after King Solomon
    Assyrian Invasion – 721 BC
    Babylonian Invasion – 586 BC
    Jesus Christ – 1st century
    AD 70



Video 2 – Continued

  • “Last Days” – Israel’s end time, not ours
    5:16-18; Acts 24:14-15; Acts 26:22 – 23; 1 Peter 1:10-12; Revelation 10:7
  • “The end of Judah” cf. Deuteronomy 31:29-30
  • 2 Peter 3:3-5; 2 Peter 2:5 – What “world” was destroyed in the days of Noah? That is our contrast, but, what happened in Noah’s generation that would never happen again?
  • Matthew 24:3 cf. 1 Corinthians 10:11
  • Deuteronomy 32:29 cf. 1 Thessalonians 5 (cf. Luke 19:41-44)



Group Study on Deuteronomy chapters 31-32
OICA acronym – Observation, Interpretation, Correlation, Application

  • 31
    Moses is readying to die.
    v. 4 – “He will do to them…”
    v. 7 – “Go with this people into the land”
    (promises to the forefathers  – Deut. 29:13)
    v. 10-13 – “At the end of every 7 years” (laws and curses, ingathering/harvest)
    v. 15 – The Lord’s appearance (in a cloud)
    v. 16 – “The people will wander away” (idolatry)
    v. 17-18 – idolatry, wickedness – He will turn His face from them
    v. 19 – Give this song, “That this song may be a witness for Me against the children of Israel”
    v. 28 – gather officers and elders
    v. 29 – evil will befall them in the last days
  • 32
    v. 1 – cf. Deut. 31:28 – who is Moses speaking to? Cf. Genesis 49
    v. 4 – “rock” cf. Exodus 17 and Numbers 20
    v. 5 – “crooked and perverse generation” cf. Matthew 17:17; Philippians 2:15
    v. 8 – “divided the sons of Adam” cf. Acts 17:26
    v. 9-10 – “covenant creation”
    v. 36 – “His people”, “His servants”, “their power” cf. Daniel 12:7
    v. 39 – 43 – faithfulness, rejoice ! Cf. Isaiah 55:11

Video 3 – The Word Goes Forth From Zion

  • Note the importance of Zion in eschatology (look up in Blue Letter Bible)
    Zion = Church = Kingdom
    Isaiah 2:3 – rebuilding the Temple (cf. Micah 4:2; Zechariah 6:12-13; Mark 15:58; Acts 7:47 – 50; Matthew 12:6-8)
  • King + Priest – the Old Covenant could NOT produce that! The Branch will do this! (Jesus)
  • In our proof-texting, Isaiah and Zechariah, we should put together the historical – chronological narrative and consider the Rabbinic tradition of the “coming of the Lord” and the rebuilding of the Temple. (see, Challenge & Transformation: Second Temple & Rabbinic Judaism – Jewish Learning Institute –
  • Hebrews 2:1-4; Hebrews 9:26 – “Last Days” began…
    “consummation of the age”; “fullness of time” – Christianity can NOT have “last days”.
  • “When the Messenger appears, then the Lord will suddenly come to His Temple (cf. Malachi 3:1; Romans 10:5 (first-fruits); Revelation 7:14


Video 4 – The Eschatological Spirit

  • 5- fold picture
    Miraculous nature
    2. Purpose of Second Exodus
    3. Time of pouring out – last days
    4. Duration of the Spirit
    5. The result of the work
  • Spirit’s work for a “particular time” cf. Joel 2:28-32 (future); Acts 2:16-20 (was already occurring)
    – a remnant will be saved (Romans 9 and 11)
    – “Specific signs when the Spirit was poured out” – Christ and the Apostles
    – “Spirit was given through the laying on the Apostles hands (cf. Acts 6: 5-6; 8:14-18; Romans 1:11; 2 Timothy 1:6)
    – Apostle Paul was last person qualified to impart miraculous nature of the Holy Spirit (cf. Galatians 3:3-5; Philippians 1:6; Jude 19)
  • Luke 9:31 – “exodus”
    – Exodus from flesh/ natural to Spirit (cf. Romans 7:4; Micah 7:15; Joshua 5:9; Galatians 4:21-230
    – 40 year imagery (exodus from Egypt; exodus from the Law)
  • The Spirit demonstrated the “Day of the Lord” was near (Galatians 4:4; Hebrews 1:1-2; 9:26)
  • “time of the end” – Daniel 8:17, 19; 11:35, 40; 12:4, 9
  • “There are no “last days” in a Kingdom that has no end” (cf. Isaiah 9:7; Ephesians 3:21)
  • “Till the end of the age” – Matthew 28:20
    The Holy Spirit continued to the end of the age
  • John 14-16 (read all the way through to chapter 17)
    – Jesus would go away for “a little while”
    – Holy Spirit would be sent in His absence
    – After a little while, He would return
    – He returned to end the Jewish age in AD 70
    – The Holy Spirit continued to the end of the age


There is also a Video 5 which goes through Matthew chapter 24. We encourage you to study the details of Matthew chapters 23-24 in context, do some historical research, and prayerfully you will praise God for the power of Preterism!

More resources from Dr. William Bell at the following link,

Notes on Andrew Wommack’s “Against Preterism”

Recently I began listening to some podcasts by a preacher named Andrew Wommack. I had enjoyed these podcasts, namely because of his knowledge and willingness to handle the message of grace – honestly and responsibly. When I had mentioned his name to a fellow Preterist brother, he scoffed, and made mention of Andrew’s “Against Preterism” video on YouTube. So, I went ahead and checked it out. You can watch it at the following link,

Right from the start Andrew explained the definition of “praeter” meaning past, defining Bible prophecy as fulfilled in the past, culminating with events of AD 70, then launched into rants against universalism and how Preterism leads to “replacement theology” and one must “reject Scripture in order to believe this”. Later inconsistently remarking, “I’ve never studied it much, but it doesn’t take much study to see that it violates Scripture”.

Universalism and “replacement theology” are the outworking of Futurist theology, not Preterist theology, and it is ignorant to try and assert otherwise. Especially, “replacement theology”, which seeks remove the validity of the Law of Moses and Bible prophecy, all the while replacing the reality with the Church, usually in an effort to be a bit more consistent. Andrew seems a bit confused in his assessment here. Mr. Wommack, hopefully we can find agreement that “studying to show ourselves approved” (2 Timothy 2:15) demands that rather than “sweeping strides” for or against something, we should “prove all things” and not say something reject or affirms unless we have “studied it much”. Which Andrew admittedly have not done, in favor of his presuppositions. No Preterist seeks to make such “sweeping strides” (which he accuses Preterists of, however he is guilty of such “strides”), “violate Scripture”, “take verses out and thrown them out”, or any of the other false claims he made against Preterism.

Also, it would seem Andrew has a rather limited and erroneous view of the dating, documentation, and details of the Book of Revelation. I was shocked to hear him confuse not only the proper dating (which more and more scholars have come to acknowledge must have been before them Temple fell in AD 70), but also, he seems to pick and choose when he would like to apply prophetic symbolism. Andrew, might I encourage you read some books regarding Biblical prophecy outside the Dispensational framework before you go about trying to explain why and how others are doing it wrong? We will get to that point in a moment.

In this YouTube rebuke Andrew Wommack completely avoided time texts and context regarding passages such as Matthew chapter 24 and Revelation 21. He made claims that “Preterists don’t like to listen” to certain portions of Scripture which is completely erroneous as the entire Preterist framework is built upon acknowledge the whole counsel of Scripture in its proper context. In speaking about Preterists he said the following:

“I have not taken a single verse of the Bible and thrown it out as if it does not apply”.

“They are discounting the Word of God and making it symbolic”.

Neither of these statements are true.

I’d like to acknowledge that the video “Against Preterism” is an few years and prayerfully you have reconsidered some things he said and could/should publicly clarity. Also, we should all consider how pride seeming statements are asserting we won’t read other books because we’ve “read the Book”. How strange of a statement from another Bible teacher within the Body. So…Andrew won’t read the books that clarify the Preterist position, books that would pretty much explain that his presuppositions and assertions regarding Preterism are wrong, yet you would teach others as to how they should navigate Truth, listen to him, and read his books?

Andrew has some great teachings on grace through faith, loving thy neighbor, and even explanations of grace in line with the New Covenant, and more.  I would hope this review would be received in the Spirit of respect and honesty, as well as accountability. May a zeal empowered by knowledge lead us forward.

In Service to Him,

Michael Miano
Pastor, Director, & Apologist

The Blue Point Bible Church
The Power of Preterism Network
MGW Apologetics

Notes from the 2018 Memphis Eschatology Conference


Just a few weeks ago, many of us gathered at Raines Road Church of Christ in Memphis, Tennessee for the Memphis Eschatology Conference. Dr. William Bell, of All Things Fulfilled, was the host preacher. As always the fellowship and the lessons were amazing. I took many notes and have compiled them a bit here for your edification and prayerfully encouragement for you to dig into the lessons yourself. Enjoy.

Daniel Rogers – 1 Thessalonians

Mr. Rogers did a great job bringing us into the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which was penned around AD 51 – 52. I am familiar with Daniel’s teachings on the Second Exodus and was therefore thrilled to hear him explain how we should understand that as a framework. He frame the narrative as “out of darkness into light”. You can listen to more from Daniel Roger’s on the Second Exodus at the following link,

In his presentation he said,  “You could say Exodus is the first book of the Bible, and Genesis is the prologue”. He marked out specific mentions in Isaiah 11:11 and 1 Corinthians 10:6 & 11 of the “second exodus”. I appreciated Mr. Roger’s highlighting details from the Law and the Prophets to better and Biblically inform our understanding of what is being detailed in 1st Thessalonians. He mentioned Exodus 19:5, Zechariah 14, Isaiah 40, and Malachi 3-4. Two other important things I recollect from Daniel’s presentation was his exhorting us to pay attention to the use of “personal pronouns” in the letter and his remarking that “jumping to 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 without developing the details of the letter usually highlights an agenda (rather than an honest understanding of the text).

All throughout his presentation, Mr. Rogers highlighted portions of texts from 1st Thessalonians and expounded upon their meaning. Looking at 1 Thessalonians 1:4 and God’s choosing and electing these people to turn from idols to the One True God (1 Thess. 1:9-10), to making note of “time-texts” that should be considered when we understand the fulfillment of these events (cf. 1 Thess. 2:17), the Church (Christ is us) being the “Apostolic hope” (cf. 1 Thess. 2:19-20), and how the “coming of the Lord in 1 Thess. 3:11-13 is the same as mentioned by Jesus Christ and noted in Matthew 16:27-28. Daniel’s mention of Tom Holland’s, Contours of Pauline Theology, is important when seeking to understand the corporate aspect of Pauline theology and eschatology. Lastly, Daniel made great points in noting the salvific, sanctification details noted in 1 Thess. 5:9-10 and how they correlate to baptism into Christ as mentioned in Romans chapter 6.

Listen to Daniel’s Roger’s full presentation at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link,

Robert Buna – 2 Thessalonians

Mr. Robert Buna started out his presentation explaining that this group of Thessalonians receiving this letter around AD 52 were a group dealing with local Jewish persecution because of their conversion to Jesus Christ. This letter is reminding them of the soon coming relief as was promised by “word of the Lord”. Mr. Buna offered an excellent syllogism to make sense of the points he brought out.

The Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24) is events leading to the destruction of the Jerusalem in AD 70.

2nd Thessalonians is an interpretation of the Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24)

Matthew chapter 24 and 2 Thessalonians are both speaking of events leading the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Basically, the Apostle Paul customizes the Matthew chapter 24 discourse to better suit the current perspective of the Thessalonians. Robert brought out so many great details from 2 Thessalonians that surely makes listening to his presentation of great importance. He detailed the audience of the Jews in Thessalonica as per the context of Scripture, marked out details regarding the “man of sin”, and challenged us to consider simple truths revealed through the context of 2 Thessalonians that prove Covenant Eschatology (ie., Full Preterism) as true.

Consider the following parallels:

Coming of the Lord (Matthew 24:3, 30 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1
Gathering of the Elect (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1)
Persecution of the Saints (Matthew 24:9 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
Presence of Angels (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7)
The Dangers: Shaken in Mind (Matthew 24:10 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: Being Deceived (Matthew 24:4, 24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3)
The Dangers: Iniquity (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:7)
The Dangers: False Prophets (Matthew 24:11,24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: False Signs & Wonders (Matthew 24:24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:9)
The Dangers: Apostasia (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
The Brightness (Matthew 24:27 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
Exhortation (Luke 21:36 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5, 11)
Coming of the Kingdom (Luke 21:32 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5)
The “one” in the Temple (Matthew 24:15 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4)

You can listen to Mr. Robert Buna’s full presentation on 2 Thessalonians at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link,

Dr. William Bell – Galatians

Dr. Bell gave 2 lectures on Galatians and focused quite a bit on Jesus Christ’s resurrection from the dead (cf. Galatians 1:1; Acts 13:33; Romans 1:3-4). He detailed that there are two worlds in focus – flesh and Spirit, and the resurrection establishes Christ’s position. Dr. Bell detailed “the dead” being a concept far different than our modern concept (cf. Galatians 2:19; Romans 8:8-9), and ultimately how in ancient cultures, “if they had no children, they were considered dead”. He also detailed in length the concept of a last will and testament, and made note that in the time of the first century it was being revealed that the “OC Jews had an outdated will”.

You can listen to Dr. William Bell’s Lectures on Galatians at the following two links;

Holger Neubauer – Ephesians

Holger Neubauer delivered two presentations on Ephesians at the recent conference. In his first presentation he offered up powerful insights on textual criticism regarding the Greek text and the dating of New Testament writings. I have asked him to put together a writing that would further educate us all in those areas. Mr. Neubaur’s contending for the writing of Ephesians during his Casarean “house imprisonment” in AD 57-59 was interesting and runs against the often assumed writing during the Roman imprisonment in AD 60-62. Holger brought out attention to details in Acts chapter 21 and the reasoning for the Apostle Paul’s arrest and how that established historical context.

In his second presentation, Holger detailed the importance of paying attention to the pronouns – “we”, “you, “us”, them” – to the extent it will truly help highlight that the Apostle’s preached a law-free Gospel. Holger remarked, “It is my estimation, that this Jewish “us and we”, and the Gentile “you and them” have to be understood in order to see what the Apostle Paul is trying to accomplish when writing about these things”.  Holger also brought us over to Acts chapter 19 to establish come context for the details in Ephesus, he went into great detail about the “7 essentials of New Testament Christianity” as marked out in Eph. 4:4.

I know I have enjoyed and look forward to more learning from Holger Neubauer. He truly is a preacher theologian and usually expounds on more than a few things at once.  I encourage you to listen to his two lectures found at the following two provided links:

Steve Baisden – Philippians

Mr. Steve Baisden framed his two lectures on the Book of Philippians as being to and about “A Well Established Congregation”. He launched right into marking out the eschatology in Philippians by making note of 2 Peter 3:10 and how that correlated to Philippians 1:6, 10, 19, 20; 2:14-16, 20; and 4:5. I thought it was great to hear Mr. Baisden make note of the fact that we must consider details in their own respective context, and also notice that all throughout Scripture there are different points being made in different contexts (that is why “proof-texting” is frowned upon).

In speaking about the eschatological resurrection being marked out in Philippians, and all throughout the New Testament, Steve said, “If Christ is in you, you have been resurrected!”. Steve marked out the Jewish context of Philippians (cf. Phil. 2:2; 3:3, 16; 4:9) and explained how this is important to take note of when “rightly dividing the Word of truth (cf. 2 Timothy 2:15)”. Pertaining to cross references, Mr. Baisden marked out Phil. 1:14-20 as fulfillment of Matthew 24:14, and Phil. 2:9-10 as fulfillment of Isaiah 45:23-24. In his first and second lectures, Mr. Baisden brought out many interesting details for further study such as the use of the Greek word “kampto”, the end of Hades (and corresponding thoughts), denominationalism, and the body of Moses (cf. Deuteronomy 31:29; 32:5; Romans 8:8-23; and 1 Corinthians 15: 51-56.

Listen to both of Steve Baisden’s lectures at the following links:

Dr. Don Preston – Colossians

Dr. Don Preston framed his two lectures on Colossians in light of “The Passing of the Law of Moses: A Different View”. Dr. Preston explained that when we properly understand the “time-statements” in Scripture and the context of the passing of the Law, is a double-barrel shotgun with buckshot to futurism. Don also brought our attention to Israel’s Festal Calendar as reference in Colossians chapter 2. In his usual fashion, Dr. Preston detailed and demanded consistency from the Christian theological community regarding the Torah and it’s Telos (a focus Don has continued to emphasize). Don explained the correlation between Colossians 2:15, Matthew 5:16-18, and Leviticus 23. Dr. Preston also remarked that Israel’s feast days are the Rosetta Stone of eschatology, and showed how Jesus Christ used the vernacular of Jewish feast days to explain the impending end (cf. Matt. 23:39; 24:29-31, 36).

In preparation for lecture number 2, Dr. Preston had us read John chapters 7-8 and Revelation chapters 13 -15 and see the allusion to Sukkot. In his second presentation, he used Sukkot as the focus of a fulfilled eschatology (all jots and tittles must be fulfilled for the New Covenant to be a reality). Furthermore, Dr. Preston made it clear that NT eschatology “…builds its entire narrative around the 2nd exodus, the 2nd Moses, and the fulfillment of the feast days”. He made mention of a book, The Moses Connection by Bill Day.

It would surely be an enriching study to follow this review by marking out time to listen to Dr. Don Preston’s lectures on Colossians which are available at the following links:

Kyle Elliot – 1 Timothy

Mr. Kyle Elliot offered up his lecture on 1 Timothy with a focus on sound doctrine. He also brought before us a chiastic literary structure found throughout the letter to Timothy marking out the “good fight”, “submission”, “leadership”, “service” and “apostasy”. The text takes place within the framework of the last days (cf. 1 Timothy 4:1-5). Kyle offered up a bulk of Old Testament and New Testament passages that should be considered to best understand the details brought forth in 1st Timothy. For example, Isaiah 2:2, 20-21; Daniel 2:44; 12:1; Joel 2:28-29, 30-31; Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. Haggai 2:6, 21); Acts 2:38; 10:45; Luke 23:27-31 (cf. Revelation 6:16); Mark 13:14-19 (cf. Revelation 16:18); 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 (cf. Revelation 10:5-7; 11:15).

I loved that Mr. Kyle Elliot challenged us with sound doctrine and application to take on the “untraversed frontier before us”. Go ahead and listen to his lecture at the following link,

John Holt – 2 Timothy  

Mr. John Holt framed his lecture on 2nd Timothy as “The Crown of Righteousness: Enduring the Last Days”. Three points that Mr. Holt marked out were 1.) The Prize/ The Reward – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8 cf. Hebrews 9:28; James 1:12). 2.) The Parousia/ Coming – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 21:1; Matthew 16:27-28; Luke 21:31; Matthew 10:21-23. 3.) The Sending of the Spirit – John 16:5-7.

Mr. Holt highlighted the wisdom in 2 Timothy 2:10, “…that they may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory”. This would happen at the time of the end (cf. 2 Timothy 3:1-5; Acts 2:16—21 (cf. Joel 2:28), and Matthew 24:29-31.

Listen to Mr. Holt’s entire presentation at the following link,


Submitted by Michael Miano
c/o The Power of Preterism Network

“Resurrection Talk” – Explained & Reviewed

The other night I put out a video called “Resurrection Talk” wherein I sought to explain with clarity the Corporate Body View (CBV) and the differentiation between what happened to the living, the asleep, and the dead ones at the coming of the Lord. You can watch that video at the following link,

In that video I explained the following points:

  • Properly frame discussion by looking at what the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:1 – 11, in regards to the exodus event being recorded as an “example” upon those whom them ends of the age had come (I use past tense to point back to the 1st century). So looking back to the exodus, and having a familiarity with the “Law and the Prophets” as mentioned by the Apostle Paul to be the very source of his preaching the “resurrection of the dead” (cf. Acts 24:14-15; Acts 26:22-23)
  • In this video we will specifically focus on two texts – 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 and 1 Corinthians chapter 15.
  • As we go through the texts keep in mind the distinctions – the living (being those alive during the time of the coming of the Lord (cf. Matthew 16:27-28; Hebrews 8:13; Romans 8: 18-19, the asleep (cf. those who cannot die because they put faith in Jesus Christ but had biologically died during the time of transition. See, John 11:11, 25-26; 1 John 3:4), and the dead ones (cf. those who died prior to the birth of the Messiah; Hebrews 11:1 – 40).
  • We must maintain a corporate understanding of these things. This would have been already in the mind of the original Believers, yet due to the rise of Hellenism, individualist notions, secular humanism, and so much more, we have moved far away from necessary understating. Looking back to the exodus event, we note that the Israelites saw it as important to take Joseph’s bones with them (cf. Exodus 13:19). Also, 1 Corinthians 14:36 and Hebrews 11:39-40 are texts that reinforce the understanding that whatever was happening to a certain people (living), it was always important to consider from whom it originally came, and to know that whatever happens now (especially in regards to God’s covenant relationships) will bless those who have come before us (dead ones). This is all speaking about how the different groups of people would be effected by the transition of the covenants (Old to New Covenant).
  • In regards to 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, I made the point that this text is informing the living how they should have hope regarding those who “had fallen asleep” (v.13). As per the text, the asleep will come with the Lord at His coming (v. 14), then those who are living will be gathered together (Greek word – harpazo – means to seize, the directional word “up” is an interpreter’s addition) to meet the Lord in the Spirit (Greek word aer means spirit or breathe, not the sky). This was the meeting with the Lord(Greek word – apantesis – usually used to depict a people going out to meet a king and follow him to his enthronement). The summation is the victory words, “…and so shall we ever be with the Lord (v. 17). I had mentioned that this Apostolic teaching seems to be directed toward a heresy that seemingly began in Thessalonica to disrupt the Gospel efforts, namely that “those who had fallen asleep” would miss out on the coming rewards to be given at the coming of the Lord.
  • In regards to 1 Corinthians 15:1- 58, I marked out the point of the text to be saying there will and must be a “resurrection of the dead” (Greek – “anastatis nekroi – a standing again of the dead ones”) and then discussion regarding how, or as the text says “with what kind of body will they come?” (v.35).  We note that there were many teaching false doctrines regarding how the goal of the ages was being revealed and seeking to corrupt the minds of those who had put their faith in Christ Jesus. In 2 Timothy 2:14-18, we read of two men particularly who went about teaching that the resurrection had already occurred (prior to the destruction of the Temple) which was marked out as a false teaching that disrupted the faith of many. The “resurrection of the dead” was vital to the fulfillment of the things because of what we marked out above about the necessary corporate understanding and that is exactly why the Apostle quotes two Old Testament passages right from the start of this chapter (v. 3 cf. Isaiah 52:14; Isaiah 53:1-12; v. 4 cf. Hosea 6:2). This becomes evident when we become immersed in the Biblical narrative. The point of the Apostolic teaching in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 is to highlight that if there was to be no “resurrection of the dead” (which points back those who died under the Law and the Prophets) than those who had “fallen asleep” have no hope (v.18), those who preach and believe are doing so in vain (v.17-19). God subjected the Old Covenant to death to produce life, a beautiful reality we see in nature. There was a natural body (Old Covenant people) and there is a Spiritual body (New Covenant).  Both had their glory (v.38-44) but flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (v. 50). Jesus Christ was the revealing of the mystery of which the Apostle speaks about in verse 51. At the coming the Lord, some would be alive and not sleep (cf. Matthew 16:27-28; 1 Thessalonians 4:17), and would be changed (Greek word – Alasso – meaning to go from one mind to another; full clearing of conscience) and the dead would be raised incorruptible and immortal by way of the victory we have through Jesus Christ (v. 57). The dead would be raised in Christ Jesus and would be in the “one new man” (cf. Ephesians 2:15; 3:4-12; 4:22-24). It was this hope, the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets (two texts specifically cited in verses 54-55 are Isaiah 25:8 and Hosea 13:14), being fulfilled, that should cause us to be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the word of the Lord, knowing that we do not labor in vain (v.12). He is faithful to His promises indeed!

A few last remarks. I am putting my crazy drawing below (lol) of how I see all of this “resurrection talk” taking place at the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. Surely study and discussion should continue in these regards to work out and further explain details, even leaving room for corrections. However, in my estimation, this is a clear and concise foundational understanding of the things we see herein and need not be disturbed or mis-characterized by those who unfortunately take pride in doing such. May we find unity in the positive remarks found in both texts regarding encouraging and comforting one another and being steadfast and abounding in our work in the Lord.

Blessings in the Lord,
Michael Miano



“At the core of the individual resurrection (which is passed off as a doctrinal matter by Christians) is a Greek dualistic anthropology and Western individualism”. – William Bell

Revelation 14 – “Correlating Verses” Outline

This outline is intended to accompany the lecture given by Pastor Michael Miano at The Blue Point Bible Church, which was supposed to be preached at the Spirit & Life Lectures 2018 at Lakeshore Church of Christ. You can listen to the podcasted audio of the lecture at the following link,

Revelation 14:1 – cf. Revelation 5:5-6; 7:3-10; 12:11; 22:3
“Lamb” – John 1:29, 31; 1 Corinthians 5:7 (cf. 1 Peter 1:19)
            “Mount Zion” – Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. 2 Kings 19:31; Psalm 48:2,11)
            “144,000”/ “Elect” – Matthew 24:24, 31; Luke 18:6-18; John 10:6, 28-30; John 17:6-8

Revelation 14:2 – cf. Revelation 10:8, 16, 17
“Voice from Heaven” – Luke 3:22 (cf. 2 Peter 1:18); Acts 11:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:16
(cf. Job 40:9; Psalm 77:18; Psalm 104:7; Isaiah 29:6)


Revelation 14:3 – cf. Revelation 5:9; 15:3
“New Song” –     cf. Exodus chapter 15; Psalm 40:3; 96:1; 144:9; Isaiah 12:10
“Redeemed” – Luke 1:68; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 1:18
“Firstfruits” – Romans 1:16-17; Romans chapters 9 & 15; Romans 8:23; 1 Cor. 15:20-23
“Earth” – in Greek “ge” meaning land


Revelation 14:4 – cf. Revelation 17:5; 18:3; 21:2
“Virgins”/ “follow Lamb” – Matthew 25:1-13; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:32
(cf. Lamentation 2:13)
Revelation 14:5
“Without fault” – John 1:47; Hebrews 9:14; Jude 24
(cf. Psalm 32:2,5)

Revelation 14:6
“Everlasting Gospel” – Matthew 24:14; Romans 1:16-17; Ephesians 4:4
(cf. Acts chapters 13, 24, & 26)

Revelation 14:7
            “Fear God”
“Hour of His judgement has come”
“Worship Him”

Revelation 14:8  – cf. Revelation 11:8; 16:10, 17-21; 18:2, 24
“Babylon is fallen”/ “great city” – Matthew 23:35; Luke 13:33-34
(cf. Daniel 9:24-27)


Revelation 14:9 – cf. Revelation 13:14-15; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4
“Worship of the beast & his image”
“Mark in hand/forehead” – (cf. Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8; Proverbs 7:31)


Revelation 14:10 – cf. Revelation 7:9; 16:9; 19:15, 20; 20:10; 21:8
“Cup of His indignation” – (cf. Psalm 75:8; Isaiah 51:17; Jeremiah 25:15)
“Tormented with fire and brimstone” – (cf. Genesis 19:24; Psalm 11:16; Isaiah 30:33)


Revelation 14:11 – cf. Revelation 19:3
“Smoke ascends forever” – (cf. Isaiah 34:10; 51:6)
“No rest” – (cf. Deuteronomy 28:65; Job 3:26; Isaiah 62:7)


Revelation 14:12 – cf. Revelation 2:13; 12:17; 13:10
“Patience/Perseverance of the saints” – Luke 8:15; Luke 21:19; Romans 15:4
“Commandments of God” – John 13:34; John 15:17; Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 2:3
“Faith of Jesus” – Romans 3:22, 26; Romans 5:1; 2 Corinthians 13:5


Revelation 14:13
“Blessed are the dead from now on” – Hebrews 9:8
“Rest from labors” – 2 Corinthians 7:15 (cf. Jeremiah 30:10; Haggai 2:1-9)


Revelation 14:14 -20 – cf. Revelation 6:2; 8:1-6; 11:2; 15:5-16:1; 19:15
“Cloud coming imagery” – Matthew 16:27; Mark 8:28; Acts 1:9-11; Jude 14-15
“Son of Man…sickle” – Matthew 3:11-12; 13:31-34
(cf. Isaiah 63:3; Lamentations 1:15-20; Joel 3:13)
“Vine of the earth” – Matthew 21:33-40  (cf. Isaiah 5:7)