#TeamPRETERIST – Establishing Team Leaders


Would you be willing to help our efforts being “on the front lines of reformation and revival” bringing forth CLARITY, HEALING, & STRATEGY in regards to the “preterist movement”?

We are looking to have “team leaders” help us move forward.

Team Leaders will work together regarding the strategic efforts of #TeamPRETERIST and will help network the “movement”. For every 10 people that get “on the team” we will elect another Team Leader.

Each Team Leader will receive monthly responsibilities which include:

  • Being “in the know” regarding Preterism and the “Preterist Movement”, which will be done through our networking and announcements (The Power of Preterism Network is helping in these regards).
  • A list of 10 people “on the team” to call throughout the month – offering strategic announcements, fellowship & encouragement, and answering questions or concerns.
    A continuing personal commitment to advance the truth of Jesus Christ and His fulfilled work (Preterism).

    Sign up to be a Team Leader today!

  • Each Team Leader will be asked to take a fivefold survey and submit the results to Pastor Michael Miano, Director of The Power of Preterism. Visit the following link to do so, http://fivefoldsurvey.com/
  • Each Team Leader will be asked to supply a list of 2-3 burdens and inspirations in regards to Christianity, and/or the “Preterist Movement” to Pastor Michael Miano as well. (An Inspiration is something you feel has been led by God and makes you see His glory, whereas a burden is something that bothers you, or you feel led to instigate solutions.
  • Each Team Leader will be exhorted and admonished to “walk worthy” in accordance with 1 Thessalonians 2:12.
  • Each Team Leader will be encouraged as well as challenged to grow in regards to ministry, and their influence for the Gospel’s sake whether through writing, video, speaking, or audio.
  • Team Leaders will also be asked to share their thoughts from time to time on the #TeamPRETERIST Strategic Conference Calls

Are you willing?

Begin the process today by emailing “I desire to be a Team Leader with #TeamPRETERIST” to ChristianityGoneWild@Yahoo.com

As Iron Sharpens Iron….

Last week I was interviewed on “Inspired Blessings”, a local television show hosted by Jean Marie Prince on Long Island, New York. You can watch that interview at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF7BJbw3V90

At the end of the interview, you can watch the “post-interview clip” wherein Mrs. Prince made some comments regarding my beliefs in “Fulfilled End Times”. I have since responded to the verses she provided regarding the “Coming of the Lord” through a YouTube video and an article published on the TFC Magazine website (I will provide links to both at the conclusion of this blog).

Another point she brought up was that I believe “Jesus already came and He is reigning on the Earth”. Amen.

Today, as I listened to the August podcast of the “Monthly Preterist Conference Call”, I realized brother Johnny Ova, who pastors Sound of Heaven Church (http://soundofheaven.church/), has yet again come through in a true Proverbs 27:17 fashion.

“As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another”.

Johnny Ova is not only a co-laborer for the Kingdom with me on Long Island. He has served such a pivotal role in my call from me being called back to Long Island to the consistent encouragement and efforts he puts forth, it is hard for me not to thank God and brag about him every chance that I get.

Anyway, as a direct response to my I believe that Christ is now reigning through His saints on Earth as the fulfillment of the Kingdom hope is best demonstrated through Johnny’s presentation. Walk worthy of 2 Timothy 2:15 and give his message a listen/ or read. Here is the link, https://preteristconferencecalls.wordpress.com/2016/09/17/04-johnny-ova-the-nature-of-the-kingdom/


In Service to Him,

Pastor Michael Miano

Blue Point Bible Church – www.bluepointbiblechurch.org

The Power of Preterism Network – www.powerofpreterism.com


P.S. – Here are the links to the resources I referenced above:

Youtube Response – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AV_SsRVh8s

Article at TFC Magazine – http://www.tfcmag.com/preview1.php?id=279&p&search=by%20Michael%20Miano#ontitle

“Proud Preterists”

I was so encouraged this past weekend as I saw quite a few people follow the spark set forth by a Facebook group called “Preterist Meanderings”. Mr. Chad Kennow created a holy chain-reaction by simply utilizing social media to encourage the brethen. (Something we are called to do by Scripture!)

Sadly there are many more Preterists out there who have done videos who could have done a video to support this effort. However that simply highlights that we need leadership and strategy in order to see the power of preterism go beyond where we are now.

As Director of The Power of Preterism Network (TPPN) (www.powerofpreterism.com), this is something I have continually highlighted and seek to bring forth.
It’s simply efforts like Mr. Kennow’s, and our all working together as a “team” that will bring to fruitition the reformation we have waited to see.

Keep an eye out for #TeamPRETERIST

In Service to Him,
Pastor Michael Miano
(email: christianitygonewild@yahoo.com)


Celebrating the Parousia!!! CHRIST HAS COME!

On Sunday, August 7th, 2016 we will be celebrating ‘Parousia Day’ aka ‘New Jerusalem Day’ at The Blue Point Bible Church.

This is going to be a collaborative effort within the ‘Fulfilled Eschatology’ community, and among those who understand the reality of the fulfilled parousia. This will be the first time we celebrate this reality as a community, prayerfully this will be encouraging, edifying, and glorifying to God through the unity of His people

On August 10th, 70 AD the Second Temple fell in Jerusalem. Since that fateful day, it has been made clear that Jesus Christ is the cornerstone of a new temple, God’s dwelling place made up of people from all nations (Ephesians 2:19-22). Parousia” is a Greek word meaning “presence.”

Join us on August 7th, as we celebrate the presence of Jesus in New Jerusalem, the city of God, where Jesus dwells today with His people (Revelation 21:3; II Corinthians 6:16).

We will be offering the explanation of and the participation in the fulfilled Lord’s Table. As well as some creative ideas of celebrating the old to the new. 🙂

You can read more about this great idea at the following link:



In Service to Him,

Pastor Michael Miano

A Review of ‘Redirectional Idealism’

This article was orginally published in TFC Magazine at TFCMag.com. 
A couple years ago, at the first Annual Bible Conference at Blue Point Bible Church (January 2014), I met a gentleman named Donald Perry. He mentioned that he wrote a book and held to an understanding that while it acknowledged the efforts of Preterism (which I hold to in regards to eschatology, and as a proper method of understanding Bible prophecy), it was different in the approach of how fulfillment applies to our lives.
Within recent months, now 2016, Mr. Perry gave me a call to remind me about reading his book and considering his position, and ….am I open to possible debate. I’ve debated before of course, however I have recently come to a ‘new perspective’ on debates – which all too often seem like a “I’m right, your wrong”, silly conversation of completing missing and talking past each others points, rather than honest conversation and willingness to challenge one’s position in light of a different perspective. So…I’m not too sure I want to debate Mr. Perry. Especially after my most recent debate which for my “opponent in debate” seemed to be a host of academic and intellectual dishonesty. See for yourself by watching the debate on Youtube,http://www.preteristdoctrine.com/category/16/miano-whitsett-debate
I didn’t really feel that it was fruitful or edifying to anyone. Save maybe me. I like how Mr. Perry explained a proper outlining of our views in his book, wherein he said, “It is through the gathering of opposing argument such as in a court room, and not being too quick to judge, that the truth will appear to be correctly plausible. If one thinks they are correct, they are always susceptible to error until they themselves have first tested it to see if it is true”. 
I took the time out last week to read through Mr. Perry’s book, Redirectional Idealism. I was able to get through it by marking out at least 4 hours of reading time in 3 days. I would say as an overall review the book had a bumpy start since it just jumped right into dealing with the details and doctrine of “Soteriology” – the study of Salvation by Grace and Election to be specific. I’m usually the guy that get’s frustrated when I hear a message that does not support it’s point by first creating a foundation for clarity and understanding. 
However, when I met Mr. Perry, I remember some of his points being similar, which rather than “bash” him, I appreciate. He is a thinking man, and wants to demonstrate various points by citing their truth, which he does in person, as well as very ‘pointedly’ in his opening chapters of ‘Readirectional Idealism’. 
For example, he makes statements like: 
“As long as you are your own savior your salvation is not in God’s hands, and you are making yourself out to be God”. 
“Election is “not of him that wills” (Romans 9:16). not of the will of man but of God”. 
And then he goes on to talk through the details of repentance as a manner of life, Paul’s heritage, Election of the nations, Limited free will of man  and other great doctrinal points. 
 All throughout my copy of ‘Redirectional Idealism’, you will find asterisks, underlining, and notes – sometimes question marks or a “huh?”, however many times a “well done” or “amen”. So all in all, a good read, if you are mining the read for good parts. 
All that noted, I am not necessarily a fan of the ‘Idealist’ position. Many-a-times, when discussing the Bible with those who hold to the position of “Idealism”, I find myself confused and not getting clarity on how the details could find fulfillment, and yet still be viewed and followed as unfulfilled. I believe I will qualify some of my reservations in the rest of this review. Maybe….these points will be clarified by Mr. Perry in another forum, and I will gladly follow up through Youtube video and my radio show at www.MianoGoneWild.com. Matter of fact, I will be asking Mr. Perry if he will join me on an upcoming series looking at the different “Flavors of Preterist Thought” coming in late July 2016 on MGW Online Radio. Keep your eye out for that. 
Redirectionalism claims to be “Absolute Orthodox Idealism” which when broken down into a basic explanation is a claim to be the right belief on ‘idealism’ which is a rather varied and confusing philosophical perspective. You can read more at this link,http://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_idealism.html
In his book, Mr. Perry explains his view of “Redirectionalism” in this manner:
“In short, we believe them (the Apostles), that we are to follow their example and not some newly invented eschatology or idea that we make up after A.D. 70. We believe we are redirected by the Apostles to follow them, and I think it is still possible to do that.”
“Our generation is redirected to live as those to whom the NT was addressed, understanding our New Testament consummated in Christ at the cross. Our lives are to be lived out like unto the maturity of the church as it was in the generation Christ spoke of, unto a perfect witness and unto His coming and His kingdom”.
“Why should any Christian have a problem with following the Apostles’ example?” 
In these details I would tend to agree with Mr. Perry’s sentiments. I sense subtle “stabs” at various efforts that have explained “How Shall We Live” after A.D. 70 in Mr. Perry’s tone. I would say each person on the Earth needs to be “redirected” or maybe ‘restored’ to follow the proper way of man – manifesting dominion and living life to the full (might we say “restored” to the reality of the Garden of Eden). 
It seems our differences shown their head when we begin to understand the “goal” or what would be called the “telos” in Greek. This term is used to detail what the ‘end all’ goal of Christ’s work was intended to be. The glorious reality of the New Covenant Body of Christ! The New Covenant. The Kingdom of God manifested through the Church (cf. Ephesians 3:15). 
Mr. Perry in talking about salvation makes the remark, “…this has already taken place in some sense”, and then goes on to say, “Our conclusions result in an interpretation that salvation is “already but not yet” (Luke 10:18) process for each individual and the church the exact same way it was for those who lived during the generation of Christ”. 
Are we to continually repeat the first century events, or has the completion of Christ’s work from the sacrifice on the cross, to His coming as the worthy eternal High Priest in AD 70 (cf. Hebrews 9:28) established a greater reality? In reading the Book of Hebrews it would seem that the “already but not yet” reality was to be consummated and invite in a greater ‘bodily reality’. This is where ‘Idealism’ loses me because it wants us to continually repeat a cycle (kind of, but not really), instead of relishing in its completion and what that establishes. That seems rather frustrating in my opinion. 
I do get the point though. It is common and popular in Christianity to try and live as much like the ‘apostolic generation’ in an effort to be pleasing to God. I myself have taken up efforts to live in this manner in many regards- even considering what it called ‘new monasticism’ to go back to the “go and sell everything” manner that characterized that generation. It’s when I took time to consider what the point of their ‘apostolic work’ was that I came to understand Preterism, the Kingdom of God, the Gospel, and so forth. Even so, marking out our difference there, when I read the completion of the “new heaven and new earth” reality in Revelation chapters 21-22, I see plenty of room in a fulfilled view (definitely different than an “already but not yet” recapitulation) for agreement with Mr. Perry in this regard – “We today must look to…..bring men out of darkness into the New Jerusalem. Those in the first generation are the example as to how to bring this about”. 
Mr. Perry simply does not agree with Preterism. His view is not a view within Preterism, it is simply Futurism trying to borrow the details of Preterism (that clearly show the proof of Christ’s accomplished and fulfilled work) and mold it with a “Futurism mindset”. Mr. Perry is simply trying to offer his view of “Redirectionalism” as an alternative to some of the questions within Preterism, namely the ‘Torah to Telos’ argument between Dr. Don K. Preston and Kurt Simmons (varying views are held regarding what was accomplished at the cross and what was to await His coming – a question that would have been largely popular even in the 1st century church). Some quotes from the book in this regard were:
“The cross should be our focal point, not A.D. 70”. 
“Preterist eschatology has also changed their soteriology”.
Mr. Perry even confounds his own confusion in this area when he makes the following statements:
“Everything that seperated us from God that Christ came to remove regarding our atonement was forever removed once and for all in the cross (Hebrews 1:3, 9:12, and 10:10-12). This did not happen at the destruction of the OT temple.” 
Was not the ‘shifting of covenants from Old to New’ a matter of Christ eternally ‘atoning’ His people? Is not salvation a matter of atonement (cf. Hebrews 9:28)? If all was overcame at the cross, why then does Mr. Perry go on to say, ”At the end of the OT system, end of the OT temple, …the bride of Christ replaced Hagar and overcame for the perfection of the dead saints”? 
Mr. Perry and others with this confusion would do well to read Dr. Preston’s 2-volume work, ‘Torah to Telos’:
All throughout the book, Mr. Perry makes some unfounded claims against Full Preterism. For example, 
“And the danger of Preterism is that Preterism naturally leads to a “Heaven Now” view in which sanctification becomes a thing of the past and the believer becomes equal to Christ in unity prior to having been resurrected and separated from his flesh. This was the error of Hymenaus and Philetus spoken of in the New Testament”. Well, I for starters think that Mr. Perry’s understanding of ‘resurrection and separation from the flesh’ is rather Gnostic than Hebraic (which the hope of resurrection in the Bible was – Hebraic not Greek/ Gnostic). Also, this was not the error of Hymenaus and Philetus either – Gnosticism as a philosophical thought didn’t begin until later. Rather, the heresy of Hymenaus and Philetus was an early’Messianic Judaism’ heresy- that in Christ, Believers were still required to follow the rules of the Temple (ie., sacrifice, legalism, circumcision, separation from Gentiles in worship, etc.). This clearly violated the details of Ephesians 2:14-18. 
Mr. Perry’s confusion really shows up when he begins to explain his understanding of Christ’s coming and the ‘resurrection of the dead’. One can clearly see how in his confusion, he is trying to make ‘Idealism’ a molded view between Preterism and Futurism, but in the end all it amounts to is a rather confusing “Futurism”. In one sentence in speaking about the ‘coming of the Lord’, Mr. Perry writes, 
“Christ’s coming was to establish His body (the church) in the midst of the world (John 17:21, 23; Matt. 17:1-13; Daniel 9:26,27), and punish that generation that could not keep either His Old or New Covenant and killed Him, and well as His Apostles and prophets (Rev. 11:8; 18:20; Matt. 23-24)”.
In that statement he is absolutely correct. However, if at His coming He established His Body (the new glorious, incorruptible Body of His people) and judged that generation of all that was cited against them in Matthew chapter 23, was that not the “change” (Greek term alasso) that was promised? Before, I cited Mr. Perry as saying a change did not occur after the cross, and you will see in a moment I cite him saying a coming is still going to occur. 
What is is? Has it occurred or not? 
If it has, these statements make no sense: 
Foremost our duty as Christians is to see Him who is, that when He does appear we will not be ashamed at His coming”. 
“He will come again for the same reason He came to the seven churches (Malachi 3:6)”. 
If He has not, then how in the world does this statement by Mr. Perry make sense? 
“When we examine all the parables prior to this point in Matthew 24:3, we discover they point to that generation alone”.
So is Jesus Christ faithful, or did He deceive that generation? 
Furthermore, I ask…..Is the resurrected Body of Christ (his people moved from the death of the Law to ‘eternal life’ in Him) a Spiritual Body? How is it that so many miss the reality that the ‘resurrected Body’ that was promised in Scripture is the ‘corporate body of Christ’ that was established in A.D. 70, at the judgment of the “living and the dead”. Many of the dead being raised to “eternal life” in Christ! I simply cannot understand how and where Mr. Perry finds validity in stating, “If we are in Christ, we are presently part of the quickening Spirit in glory and power, yet at the same time we still await a resurrection in the glory and power into a Spiritual body at the coming of Christ the same way the First-fruits did”.
And to further confuse us in this manner, he writes:
“Our physical resurrection is a focal point of Christ’s coming when we are perfected and Christ’s work for us as mediator ends with Yom Kippur typology”. 
“Christians cannot be living in the presence of the Lord without flesh and bones…Believers do not rise from the dead without physical bodies….and that is because there is a rule in Scripture that says as it was with Christ so it will be with us, if you do not have a body, you need to get resurrected so you can ascend to the Father (Romans 6:5). When we are absent from this world, we stand before God (Hebrews 9:27-28)”. 
“But yet our bodies get resurrected from the grave all at the Second coming of Christ. As Jesus had the same body before and after His resurrection, so we shall have a body like His only because of Him”.  
“We have yet to be resurrected, so for us we are not yet in the fullness of the New Jerusalem”. 
Again, this is simply not Preterism. In one sentence, Mr. Perry says the coming of Christ was done, then he says we are to wait for it, and he simply seems to miss the entire point of what the ‘resurrection of the dead’ was speaking of – surely not some “bodies of flesh and bones”- rather a Spiritual “body” (Greek ‘soma’ which in context of the Hebraic hope is speaking of ‘slaves to a system’ as the word means in Greek, and is expounded upon in the Old Testament). 
In the latter part of his book, Mr. Perry offers a commentary on the Book of Revelation. I enjoyed reading through his great insights as I read Revelation sitting on a park bench. He makes the following point about the book itself, “What the book of Revelation is concerned with is the revelation of God about Himself, and His Bride, it is not simply the plan God has for the future”. 
He only goes on to confuse us when he tries to insert his ‘idealist notions’ of us living in a “parallel generation” with the same exhortations and expectations, and that we are not wholly in the new heavens and earth yet” otherwise the commentary is surely recommended. 
While I disagree with the perspective of ‘Redirectional Idealism’ as a proper way for us to interpret Scripture, all throughout the book by that title there are some great points made in reference to Preterism. It seems Mr. Perry’s concern that Preterism changes the mind and hope of the Apostles, by living in the fulfilled reality, rather than “already but not yet” frustrates his understanding of Preterism. 
I surely believe, Preterism is in step with the “same conclusions as the Apostles’” (as is the goal of ‘audience relevancy’) and then therefore in the words of Mr. Perry, “…then we can rightly identify heresy and its activity in the church”. 
I simply don’t think we need the seemingly confused view of “Redirectional Idealism” to “redirect the course of Christianity”, rather we restore Christianity to it’s truth and power by understanding what the Apostles were hoping for – and living in it’s fulfilled reality! 
If you feel so inclined to do some further research on “Redirectional Idealism”, here is a link from Mr. Donald Perry,http://redirectionalism.com/

Clarifying Details – Preterism!

Written by Mr. Edward Howell of The Blue Point Bible Church


Starting with Isaiah 9:7 – There will be no to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David and His kingdom – which is to say that there will be no end to evangelism. People will be getting saved on a continual basis. The age of grace and of the New Heavens and New Earth has no end.

Jesus and the Jews believed in two ages:

  1. The “present evil age” (which is of Moses and the Law/ Torah)
  2. The “age to come” (the Messiah, the New Covenant, & Day of the Lord)

The Jew’s hope was in the age of the Messiah and the Day of the Lord, and understood the “present evil age” would pass, and the “age to come” would be without end. The “present evil age”, was the old “heaven and earth” (Moses & the law of sacrifices). The New Heavens and New Earth is the age of the Messiah.

The age of the old “Heaven and Earth” did not end at the cross because the Law and the sacrifices were still in effect until A.D. 70 when Christ returned on the clouds as the Father did in time past, in judgment, on those who pierced Him, and in retribution for the martyrs who cried for vengeance. His reward was with Him in ushering in the Kingdom, New Creation, New Heavens and New Earth!

Daniel 12:3 – Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the firmament.

Revelation 21:1 – I saw a New Heaven and a New Earth: for the first Heaven and the first Earth were passed away.

In A.D. 70, there was found not one stone left upon another when the destruction of the Temple (which the Jews called “Heaven and Earth” and the city of Jerusalem were destroyed. Emphasize judgment.




The downside of adopting the Hellenistic/ Grecian worldview is a literal interpretation of Scripture which started in the 4th century B.C – when Alexander the Great’s conquering of the “known world” led to a misunderstanding of the Hebrew worldview.

By taking things literally, we fail to understand the following:

    1. Euphemism – a mild word replacing an offensive one
    2. Colloquialism – a style used in informal talk and writing
    3. Conundrum – a puzzle

We see these details in Scripture as apocalyptic language, cosmic language, parabolic language, and metaphoric language.

Sadly many in our modern time have adopted a Hellenistic method of looking at Scripture unwittingly.

To understand Scripture, being that it was written to and by the Jews (with the exception of Luke), we must look at Scripture through a Hebraic view.

Who is the original author?

To whom (what audience)?

What is the message?

Where is the location?

Why (what’s the reason)?

When (what was going on at that time)?

How would the actual audience have understood the message?

We need scholars that understand the Hebraic mindset, that are diligent in study, to give proper interpretation of Scripture. When we fail to understand this, and take things as we understand them – literally – which is “eisegeting” Scripture (using one’s own interpretation) – this leads to more questions and confusion. When letting Scripture interpret Scripture and “exegeting”(allowing Scripture to form the meaning) and understanding what was intended by the original author this brings clarity and answers.



If in fact we are not living in the last days, all teachings on the “future coming of the Messiah” is false.

I submit to you that Paul himself said he was living in the last days in Hebrews 1:1-2:

“In the past, God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.”.

Remember, the phrase “this present evil age”/ “this age”, refers to Moses and the Law of sacrifices which was passing away. The Old Testament was a foreshadow of what was to come – Jesus Christ being the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets. The last days were in effect while sacrifices were being offered, and the Temple was still erect – and through the Revelation of Jesus Christ – the hope of redemption has it’s start and end.

Believing in Jesus Christ we pass from death to life. Though we die yet we shall live. We have everlasting life/ eternal life.

Since Jesus Christ fulfilled all prophecy, what are we to do and how shall we live? Study to show yourself approved. Allow the Word of God to influence all decision-making. Honor God by giving Jesus Christ Lordship over your life.



The hope of the Jews was to be God’s people, in God’s land, under God’s rule.

Israel coming out of Egypt into Canaan was physical, then spiritual, from sin to life in Jesus Christ.

Two bodies, the Jew and Gentile, have become the “One New Man”/ The Body of Christ

The Law was a covering, which showed the hope to live eternally in the presence of God, as Adam once had. The Law was a type, a shadow. The anti-type, which is the fulfillment of the shadow, refers to our Lord Jesus Christ.

You need not biologically die before being in the presence of God, but by coming into the Body of Jesus Christ.

The body of corruption and ‘mortal body’ is in bondage to sin – putting on incorruption, immortality, is to put on Christ.

The “living”, “asleep”, and “dead” all enter into the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ.

      1. Living goes from death to life in Christ
      2. Asleep will be brought into the presence of God
      3. Dead (Old Covenant saints/ in Moses) will enter into the new Body which is of Christ


Adam was made a living soul, carnal and natural. The covenant of Moses, the Law, was also carnal and natural. This was the covenant until Jesus Christ would reveal a ‘New Covenant’ through Spirit and power.

The Gospel is found in and based on the Old Testament. Any “gospel” not found in the Old Testament is a false gospel.

Resurrection of the dead was the hope of Israel. Under the Law, there was no resurrection for anyone. Those that were dead in Adam/Moses will be judged and brought into the Body of Christ. Baptism is being brought into the hope of the Old Covenant Jews – the fulfillment of the promises made by God.

      1. First man/ Adam – corporate/ natural – first covenant
      2. Last Adam – Spirit – New Covenant

Getting ‘Soma’ Understanding of the Hebrew/ Greek Context of ‘Soma'(Body)

A couple of weeks ago, I preached a sermon on 1 Corinthians chapter 15, a passage in which we read the following;

“There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory (1 Cor. 15:40-41)”.

What in the world is the Apostle Paul saying here?

Clarity on this requires is a contextual study of 1 Corinthians chapter 15 as a letter written to an actual church/local ‘body’ of believers in Corinth around early 57 A.D.
In the sermon I preached on 1 Corinthians chapter 15, I explained that the Apostle Paul is responding to 2 questions/ concerns within the church – and he makes them of utmost importance.

1.) Will there be a resurrection of the dead?
2.) With what kind of body do they come?

The Apostle Paul details that there will surely be a resurrection of the dead, he even goes the whole route of pointing out that the entire hope of the saints is based on the resurrection of the dead (cf. 1 Corinthians 15:17). He then follows that response with a response to another question which we read in verse 35 – “How are the dead raised up, and with what body do they come?”

To the Hebrew people, redemption – salvation- atonement, were a corporate reality. You will find no source within the Old Testament nor the rabbinical writings that offers individual salvation – which runs against the overly individualized preaching of the “Gospel” today. The individual’s hope is within the corporate community or what what cultural understood as a ‘body’ in 1st century Hellenistic society. I like what New Testament scholar E.P. Sanders has said on this point, ” We note that the individual’s place in God’s plan was accomplished by his being a member of the group”.

Failure to understand this “group dynamic” that was popular in the context of 1st century Corinth in our overly individualistic Western interpretations we seem to have misplaced the corporate mentality of the ancients, especially the Hebrew people. This causes many challenges to our understanding the points being made in the New Testament- namely because we lack a Hebrew context and we fail to understand how the Greeks also identified individuals by the group, ie. groups of Jews and Gentiles were referred to as “bodies” (plural term of soma is somata).

The Greek term ‘Soma’ simply means ‘body’. This can be an individual’s body, the body of an animal, or it can mean a group or society. When we study out the context of what the Apostle Paul is detailing in the letter to Corinth, especially in chapter 15, wherein he is detailing the ‘resurrection of the dead’ we find clarity. The context is essentially found by understanding what the “hope of Israel” was in regards to the resurrection of the dead as detailed through the Law and the Prophets. (I have preached various sermons on this corporate hope, which essentially was the Gospel that the Apostle Paul preached – see, Acts chapters 23, 24, 26, and 28 among Romans chapters 9 and 15).

Prayerfully I made the point in the sermon that I mentioned I preached on 1 Corinthians chapter 15 (which I will provide a link for below) that the details of the “resurrection of the dead” in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 are speaking of the Old Covenant saints transition into the ‘heavenly glories’ that were consummated in and through Jesus Christ. The Apostle Paul affirms that defeat of “the death” was sure and the mortal would put on immortality. “The death” that the Apostle Paul mentions is NOT the biological death of the individual, rather “the death” is speaking of that which comes through Law and sin – dare we call it “covenant death” (the same death, Adam suffered “the day” he eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil based on his disobedience to God’s law). See for yourself, in speaking of the defeat of death the Apostle Paul quotes from Isaiah 25:8 and Hosea 13:14 (there is NO WAY that “the death” can be forced to mean physical death unless the Apostle Paul is ignoring the context of the passages he is quoting).

As you begin to understand what “death” was being defeated, you can also begin to develop an understanding of what “mortal body” needed to put on immortality – the Old Covenant saints.

If and when you come to understand the Old Covenant “body” or group, to be that which gave a temporal life (in essence, mortal) through the Law (cf. Dueteronomy 6:2; Dueteronomy 30:15, 19; Dueteronomy 32: 46-47) you can then begin to understand what the Apostle Paul is saying regarding the resurrection of the dead (OC saints) – giving “eternal life” to those who were dead under Law – after all, the whole concept is based on promises to them isn’t it?


Once the Apostle Paul explains and affirms the “resurrection of the dead” he then moves on to the next logical question – well, with what kind of body will they come? It is important to realize what he is actually saying here – With what kind of (singular) body do they (plural) come?

Let’s take a look at the text in question – 1 Corinthians 15:35-44.

” 35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” 36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”

Will the Old Covenant saints be raised in the self same body – ie, the Old Covenant? Apparently, some were trying to teach that – think: Hymenaus and Philetus (cf. 2 Timothy 2:17; Galatians 3: 1-3).

The Apostle Paul begins to detail that – No, the Old Covenant saints under the Law in the “mortal body” will have to be raised into the “immortal body”. Just as a seed doesn’t have the same form when it is planted, so is the story with the Old Covenant saints – they were in the OC body, but they died in that covenant (just as a seed dies in the ground) and they would be raised in glory.


What is the Apostle Paul explaining in 1 Corinthians 15:40-41? . God created the heavenly bodies of the sun, moon, and the stars which each have their own intended glory, and he creates earthly bodies that have their own intended glory. God gives all sorts of things bodies that have glory of their own. God created the Old Covenant as a “mortal body” – that which would provide ‘temporal covenant life’ and that covenant had it’s glory, however it was and is through the glorious “immortal body” of Christ that eternal life is found – and ‘the dead’ would be raised into that glorious body!

“Therefore, my dear brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always excelling in the Lord’s work, knowing that your labor in the Lord is not in vain (1 Corinthians 15:58)”.

Blessings in Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano

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