Notes from the 2018 Memphis Eschatology Conference

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Just a few weeks ago, many of us gathered at Raines Road Church of Christ in Memphis, Tennessee for the Memphis Eschatology Conference. Dr. William Bell, of All Things Fulfilled, was the host preacher. As always the fellowship and the lessons were amazing. I took many notes and have compiled them a bit here for your edification and prayerfully encouragement for you to dig into the lessons yourself. Enjoy.

Daniel Rogers – 1 Thessalonians

Mr. Rogers did a great job bringing us into the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which was penned around AD 51 – 52. I am familiar with Daniel’s teachings on the Second Exodus and was therefore thrilled to hear him explain how we should understand that as a framework. He frame the narrative as “out of darkness into light”. You can listen to more from Daniel Roger’s on the Second Exodus at the following link, https://labornotinvain.com/podcastarchives/topics/the-second-exodus/

In his presentation he said,  “You could say Exodus is the first book of the Bible, and Genesis is the prologue”. He marked out specific mentions in Isaiah 11:11 and 1 Corinthians 10:6 & 11 of the “second exodus”. I appreciated Mr. Roger’s highlighting details from the Law and the Prophets to better and Biblically inform our understanding of what is being detailed in 1st Thessalonians. He mentioned Exodus 19:5, Zechariah 14, Isaiah 40, and Malachi 3-4. Two other important things I recollect from Daniel’s presentation was his exhorting us to pay attention to the use of “personal pronouns” in the letter and his remarking that “jumping to 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 without developing the details of the letter usually highlights an agenda (rather than an honest understanding of the text).

All throughout his presentation, Mr. Rogers highlighted portions of texts from 1st Thessalonians and expounded upon their meaning. Looking at 1 Thessalonians 1:4 and God’s choosing and electing these people to turn from idols to the One True God (1 Thess. 1:9-10), to making note of “time-texts” that should be considered when we understand the fulfillment of these events (cf. 1 Thess. 2:17), the Church (Christ is us) being the “Apostolic hope” (cf. 1 Thess. 2:19-20), and how the “coming of the Lord in 1 Thess. 3:11-13 is the same as mentioned by Jesus Christ and noted in Matthew 16:27-28. Daniel’s mention of Tom Holland’s, Contours of Pauline Theology, is important when seeking to understand the corporate aspect of Pauline theology and eschatology. Lastly, Daniel made great points in noting the salvific, sanctification details noted in 1 Thess. 5:9-10 and how they correlate to baptism into Christ as mentioned in Romans chapter 6.

Listen to Daniel’s Roger’s full presentation at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVGlsY1ZuQ

Robert Buna – 2 Thessalonians

Mr. Robert Buna started out his presentation explaining that this group of Thessalonians receiving this letter around AD 52 were a group dealing with local Jewish persecution because of their conversion to Jesus Christ. This letter is reminding them of the soon coming relief as was promised by “word of the Lord”. Mr. Buna offered an excellent syllogism to make sense of the points he brought out.

The Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24) is events leading to the destruction of the Jerusalem in AD 70.

2nd Thessalonians is an interpretation of the Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24)

Matthew chapter 24 and 2 Thessalonians are both speaking of events leading the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Basically, the Apostle Paul customizes the Matthew chapter 24 discourse to better suit the current perspective of the Thessalonians. Robert brought out so many great details from 2 Thessalonians that surely makes listening to his presentation of great importance. He detailed the audience of the Jews in Thessalonica as per the context of Scripture, marked out details regarding the “man of sin”, and challenged us to consider simple truths revealed through the context of 2 Thessalonians that prove Covenant Eschatology (ie., Full Preterism) as true.

Consider the following parallels:

Coming of the Lord (Matthew 24:3, 30 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1
Gathering of the Elect (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1)
Persecution of the Saints (Matthew 24:9 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
Presence of Angels (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7)
The Dangers: Shaken in Mind (Matthew 24:10 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: Being Deceived (Matthew 24:4, 24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3)
The Dangers: Iniquity (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:7)
The Dangers: False Prophets (Matthew 24:11,24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: False Signs & Wonders (Matthew 24:24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:9)
The Dangers: Apostasia (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
The Brightness (Matthew 24:27 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
Exhortation (Luke 21:36 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5, 11)
Coming of the Kingdom (Luke 21:32 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5)
The “one” in the Temple (Matthew 24:15 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4)

You can listen to Mr. Robert Buna’s full presentation on 2 Thessalonians at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qZ1fGzD8iI

Dr. William Bell – Galatians

Dr. Bell gave 2 lectures on Galatians and focused quite a bit on Jesus Christ’s resurrection from the dead (cf. Galatians 1:1; Acts 13:33; Romans 1:3-4). He detailed that there are two worlds in focus – flesh and Spirit, and the resurrection establishes Christ’s position. Dr. Bell detailed “the dead” being a concept far different than our modern concept (cf. Galatians 2:19; Romans 8:8-9), and ultimately how in ancient cultures, “if they had no children, they were considered dead”. He also detailed in length the concept of a last will and testament, and made note that in the time of the first century it was being revealed that the “OC Jews had an outdated will”.

You can listen to Dr. William Bell’s Lectures on Galatians at the following two links;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0njsLKs88lM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGjluWlLqH0

Holger Neubauer – Ephesians

Holger Neubauer delivered two presentations on Ephesians at the recent conference. In his first presentation he offered up powerful insights on textual criticism regarding the Greek text and the dating of New Testament writings. I have asked him to put together a writing that would further educate us all in those areas. Mr. Neubaur’s contending for the writing of Ephesians during his Casarean “house imprisonment” in AD 57-59 was interesting and runs against the often assumed writing during the Roman imprisonment in AD 60-62. Holger brought out attention to details in Acts chapter 21 and the reasoning for the Apostle Paul’s arrest and how that established historical context.

In his second presentation, Holger detailed the importance of paying attention to the pronouns – “we”, “you, “us”, them” – to the extent it will truly help highlight that the Apostle’s preached a law-free Gospel. Holger remarked, “It is my estimation, that this Jewish “us and we”, and the Gentile “you and them” have to be understood in order to see what the Apostle Paul is trying to accomplish when writing about these things”.  Holger also brought us over to Acts chapter 19 to establish come context for the details in Ephesus, he went into great detail about the “7 essentials of New Testament Christianity” as marked out in Eph. 4:4.

I know I have enjoyed and look forward to more learning from Holger Neubauer. He truly is a preacher theologian and usually expounds on more than a few things at once.  I encourage you to listen to his two lectures found at the following two provided links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQKPo7jDNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boP7w4ThYhg

Steve Baisden – Philippians

Mr. Steve Baisden framed his two lectures on the Book of Philippians as being to and about “A Well Established Congregation”. He launched right into marking out the eschatology in Philippians by making note of 2 Peter 3:10 and how that correlated to Philippians 1:6, 10, 19, 20; 2:14-16, 20; and 4:5. I thought it was great to hear Mr. Baisden make note of the fact that we must consider details in their own respective context, and also notice that all throughout Scripture there are different points being made in different contexts (that is why “proof-texting” is frowned upon).

In speaking about the eschatological resurrection being marked out in Philippians, and all throughout the New Testament, Steve said, “If Christ is in you, you have been resurrected!”. Steve marked out the Jewish context of Philippians (cf. Phil. 2:2; 3:3, 16; 4:9) and explained how this is important to take note of when “rightly dividing the Word of truth (cf. 2 Timothy 2:15)”. Pertaining to cross references, Mr. Baisden marked out Phil. 1:14-20 as fulfillment of Matthew 24:14, and Phil. 2:9-10 as fulfillment of Isaiah 45:23-24. In his first and second lectures, Mr. Baisden brought out many interesting details for further study such as the use of the Greek word “kampto”, the end of Hades (and corresponding thoughts), denominationalism, and the body of Moses (cf. Deuteronomy 31:29; 32:5; Romans 8:8-23; and 1 Corinthians 15: 51-56.

Listen to both of Steve Baisden’s lectures at the following links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz6lop7XoHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiuOxMBEzg0

Dr. Don Preston – Colossians

Dr. Don Preston framed his two lectures on Colossians in light of “The Passing of the Law of Moses: A Different View”. Dr. Preston explained that when we properly understand the “time-statements” in Scripture and the context of the passing of the Law, is a double-barrel shotgun with buckshot to futurism. Don also brought our attention to Israel’s Festal Calendar as reference in Colossians chapter 2. In his usual fashion, Dr. Preston detailed and demanded consistency from the Christian theological community regarding the Torah and it’s Telos (a focus Don has continued to emphasize). Don explained the correlation between Colossians 2:15, Matthew 5:16-18, and Leviticus 23. Dr. Preston also remarked that Israel’s feast days are the Rosetta Stone of eschatology, and showed how Jesus Christ used the vernacular of Jewish feast days to explain the impending end (cf. Matt. 23:39; 24:29-31, 36).

In preparation for lecture number 2, Dr. Preston had us read John chapters 7-8 and Revelation chapters 13 -15 and see the allusion to Sukkot. In his second presentation, he used Sukkot as the focus of a fulfilled eschatology (all jots and tittles must be fulfilled for the New Covenant to be a reality). Furthermore, Dr. Preston made it clear that NT eschatology “…builds its entire narrative around the 2nd exodus, the 2nd Moses, and the fulfillment of the feast days”. He made mention of a book, The Moses Connection by Bill Day.

It would surely be an enriching study to follow this review by marking out time to listen to Dr. Don Preston’s lectures on Colossians which are available at the following links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT5NOasF5lk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByt_t3kBaM

Kyle Elliot – 1 Timothy

Mr. Kyle Elliot offered up his lecture on 1 Timothy with a focus on sound doctrine. He also brought before us a chiastic literary structure found throughout the letter to Timothy marking out the “good fight”, “submission”, “leadership”, “service” and “apostasy”. The text takes place within the framework of the last days (cf. 1 Timothy 4:1-5). Kyle offered up a bulk of Old Testament and New Testament passages that should be considered to best understand the details brought forth in 1st Timothy. For example, Isaiah 2:2, 20-21; Daniel 2:44; 12:1; Joel 2:28-29, 30-31; Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. Haggai 2:6, 21); Acts 2:38; 10:45; Luke 23:27-31 (cf. Revelation 6:16); Mark 13:14-19 (cf. Revelation 16:18); 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 (cf. Revelation 10:5-7; 11:15).

I loved that Mr. Kyle Elliot challenged us with sound doctrine and application to take on the “untraversed frontier before us”. Go ahead and listen to his lecture at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2rWRsGeKgs

John Holt – 2 Timothy  

Mr. John Holt framed his lecture on 2nd Timothy as “The Crown of Righteousness: Enduring the Last Days”. Three points that Mr. Holt marked out were 1.) The Prize/ The Reward – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8 cf. Hebrews 9:28; James 1:12). 2.) The Parousia/ Coming – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 21:1; Matthew 16:27-28; Luke 21:31; Matthew 10:21-23. 3.) The Sending of the Spirit – John 16:5-7.

Mr. Holt highlighted the wisdom in 2 Timothy 2:10, “…that they may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory”. This would happen at the time of the end (cf. 2 Timothy 3:1-5; Acts 2:16—21 (cf. Joel 2:28), and Matthew 24:29-31.

Listen to Mr. Holt’s entire presentation at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQTqSzCvns

 

Submitted by Michael Miano
c/o The Power of Preterism Network

April 2018 – Preterist Conferences

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Well, glory to God! This past weekend (April 20-22) there were 2 Preterist conferences happening at the same time. The Berean Bible Church led by Pastor David Curtis had their usual annual conference (which dvd/mp3 ordering will begin for soon). Many attend and speak of the edification that comes from BBC. Visit their website to get more information, http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

However, I am writing this blog to speak about the Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar. I am just now realizing that there was a debate between well-known Preterist leader Dr. John Noe and Church of Christ preacher Steve Baisden (who is also a Preterist). I know I am looking forward to checking that out. Also, they had a great line up of speakers – Mr. Scott Klaft, Mr. Holger Neubauer, Mr. Roy Runyon, and Mr. Charles Parsley. Admittedly, I have only read a few things by these names, however they seem to be on the frontline of the reformation happening not only in the Churches of Christ, but even within the larger Christian body. As I said at the beginning, glory to God! The following link has details about the speakers and the conference, http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

I am looking to having an interview with the lead preacher, John Watson, from Westside Church of Christ (where this conference happened) in weeks to come. Matter of fact, tune in to the Hairy Ticks Variety Show on TFC Radio (www.tfcradio.org) on Tuesday, May 1st and you will get to hear that interview.

Also, in the meantime, I’d like to encourage you to view the resources that have been put out from this conference. I know I will be diving in to the details throughout this week. The following link is to the YouTube page where you can view the speakers for yourself, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEmsXxNOI45GFZIGmfA1kog

May we continue to see God glorified as we study and discern His Truth!

In Service to Christ Jesus,

Michael Miano
Pastor, Blue Point Bible Church
Director, The Power of Preterism Network

Crossroads Examined: Review of BPBC’s Conference

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I shared all about the conference earlier today on this weeks broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show. Here is a link to that show, https://www.spreaker.com/user/10014082/3-27-2018

I figured I would also write out some pertinent highlights from the Examining Crossroads: Biblical Controversies Conference that happened this past weekend (March 23-25, 2018) at The Blue Point Bible Church. Many praised God that this 5th annual Bible conference was the best one we have had yet at BPBC. Glory to God!

FUTURE STUDIES & TOPICS

Mr. Glenn Hill will be coming out with a book in the near future, Christianity’s Great Deception (detailing the doctrine of hell). Also, Mr. David King has since made a Facebook page, group, and website by the title “Hell Is Not Real”. (Check out www.hellisnotreal.com)

I will continue to bring forth details about “Conceptual Salvation” and “Soma Salvation”, both of which I spoke about at the conference. Keep your eyes tuned for more blogs at www.mianogonewild.wordpress.com

Mr. Adam Maarschalk has brought forth some challenging ideas regarding a 1000 year millennium between the two great revolts (63-73 AD & 132 – 135 AD). Keep an eye on his blog (www.adammaarschalk.com) and I look forward to having him as a guest soon on the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Pastor Steve Schilling highlighted the necessity of studies of atonement and the correlation of “pitch” in the Hebrew (the same word) and the significance, as well as distinction of understanding Jesus Christ as our propitiation (cf. 1 John 2:2).

Mr. Ancil McBarnett highlighted a great Biblical history of “Heaven and Earth”. His presentation challenged us to develop a track record of “light” and “darkness” as found through the Biblical narrative. Also, Ancil recommended reading Isaiah chapters 51-65 in an attempt to better understand the prophetic realities of “Heaven and Earth”. I look forward to a transcript of his presentation and to further engage his thoughts on an upcoming broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Dr. Cindye Coates offered up great insights regarding “God’s government” and how we must walk in a manner of; 1. Being fruitful; 2. Increasing and multiplying; 3. Having dominion; 4. Subduing all things; and 5. Replenishing things. I look forward to further dialogue with Dr. Cindye Coates on an upcoming episode of HTVS as well.

 

#TeamPRETERIST – UPCOMING PRETERIST CONFERENCES

Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar – April 20-21
Westside Church of Christ/ Contact – John Watson http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

How Shall We Then Live – April 20-22
Berean Bible Church, Virginia Beach/ Contact – Pastor David Curtis http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

Springville Lecture: The Time of the End – May 4-6
Springville Church of Christ, California/ Contact – Brent Bischel
* No web link at this time

Creationfest Northeast(Music Festival/ Preterists Meet-up) – June 27-30
Agape Farms, Pennsylvania
https://creationfest.com/ne/

Preterist Pilgrim Weekend – July 12-14
Preterist Research Institute, Ardmore, Oklahoma/ Contact – Don Preston http://www.bibleprophecy.com/events-2/annual-ppw/

Texas – The Big Texas Conference – September 21-23
Kerrville, Texas/ Contact – TJ Smith http://bigtex2018.info/

 

I surely hope to see and/or meet you at one of these conferences in the very near future. Not only that, but I pray that through this blog, I have furthered encouraged your diligent studies and maybe provided you with some resources.

Blessings in Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano The Blue Point Bible Church The Power of Preterism Network

BOOK REVIEW: Final Decade Before the End by Mr. Ed Stevens

In the Christian circles that I navigate Mr. Ed Stevens is known as one of the best resources for Jewish and Christian history. This book, Final Decade Before the End, is A MUST READ for anyone serious about understanding ‘Jewish and Christian history just before the Jewish Revolt’. He really delivered on his promise to offer a ‘historical reconstruction’ help “form a comprehensive understanding of what was really happening to Christianity during that final decade just before the end.”

At the Blue Point Bible Church, where I serve as pastor, we have been going through the “Biblical Narrative” from Genesis to Revelation since February 2015. Mr. Stevens book has been the ‘resource above resources’ for my study into the culture and time of the New Testament writings.

Not only does he provide a basic timetable for the writing and courier activity of the New Testament writings, he also provides important chronological details during that time. Also noteworthy for sure is his constant use of not just quotes, but entire passages from early, almost ancient historians such as Josephus, Tacitus, Seneca, Suetonius, among others.

I write this as I have just finished reading his book this afternoon – I took time using it as a reference tool for the past 3 months. However, now that we have embarked upon understanding the ‘Book of Revelation’ in our congregation, I felt it necessary to read through the whole book to get the ‘juicy details’ concerning the history of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish war. ‘;

Regarding the ‘history of the end’, Mr. Stevens delivers a writing with powerful evidence in first century Bible prophecy fulfillment, surely details you want to have as we continue bringing forth the truth of Full Preterism. I cannot say it enough, this is A MUST HAVE RESOURCE!

All of that said, there are surely areas I found myself disagreeing with Mr. Stevens, specifically his explanation of why the historic church did not document nor provide evidence of the experiences of the ‘time of the end’ – ie., the rapture theory. Also, as I examined the charts Mr. Stevens provides regarding the ‘expectations of the saints’, I found myself disagreeing with his reference to the hope of individual bodies at death and the nature of that fulfillment in regards to the ‘resurrection of the dead’. I look forward to interacting with these details in the near future.

Again, I note the disagreement just to be honest in my review, however take those areas out (to be agreeable with my position) or keep them it, the book is still amazing! I will continue to recommend the resources of Mr. Stevens- especially, as we encourage others to understand the historic events of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish War.

“We are devoted to chasing after the Biblical and Historical Truth, wherever it leads, and whatever it takes. This book was written for truth chasers like you”. – Ed Stevens

Order your copy at the following link:http://www.preterist.org/products/final-decade-before-the-end-print-edition

In Christ’s Name,

Michael Miano

P.S. – Mr. Stevens book also helped me solidify my position on the Millennium noting the events prior to A.D. 64, and what would follow after with the Neronian persecution. This was a big deal to me and I feel forever indebted to him for that!

Eschatology Debate Proposal (Preterism/ Futurism)

Dear Dr. John Pretlove,
First Baptist Church of Lakes
Las Vegas, Nevada

Dr. Pretlove, I approach you with this proposal in His holy service, and pray that all that is mentioned herein is received with humility and gentleness – as that is the intention I am writing with.

Recently, I have heard quite a bit of interest in the Las Vegas area regarding the truth of Full Preterism and the reforms it is provoking in congregations all over not only the United States, but also all over the world. This comes as a blessing, yet as with any reformation in Christian thought, it comes with iron sharpening iron. Paradigm shifts are never gentle, especially when the leaders are at the forefront labeling things “heresy”.

I listened to your sermon on 1 Corinthians chapter 15 that you podcast-ed as of July 12th, 2015. In said sermon you make some statements regarding those in the midst of your congregation who have expressed interest in these reforms, and then you proceed to misrepresent the Full Preterist position of the “Resurrection of the Dead” as a ‘Gnostic heresy’.

I have debated in defense of Full Preterism before, focusing on God’s glory in our debate, as well as mutually edifying conversation. You can watch some of these debates/ discussions on YouTube.

I say all of that to make a proposal to you. Since you did you diligent duty of what you see as “rebuking heresy” from the pulpit, I am now asking you to follow through and properly” debunk Preterism” in an honest way, not setting up what one might call a “straw man”.
Here is the proposal:

December 2015 at First Baptist Church of Lakes (you pick the dates- 2 nights)
Topic – The Work of Christ: What Has Been Fulfilled & What Has Not?!?!

1st Night we will present 30 minute arguments against each others position and answer audience concerns.

2nd Night we will do a debate and have final statements.

(of course we can deal with all the details once you accept this basic proposal)

I firmly believe that we can do this in a manner that glorifies God, challenges both of us to look honestly at our positions, and answer concerns of those within your congregation. Also, since you have seemingly “attacked” those in your midst preaching against a false version of “Full Preterism”, it seems fair to challenge you regarding the true position of Full Preterism, especially regarding “The Resurrection of the Dead”.

I will be looking forward to your response.

In Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano
Blue Point Bibe Church

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