Date vs. Miano (Post-Debate Resources)

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On August 11th, 2020, Michael Miano, director of The Power of Preterism Network (www.powerofpreterism.com) debated Chris Date, apologist at ReThinkingHell.com. The subject of the debate was Chris Date affirming that “There Will Be A Future Physical Resurrection of the Dead”, to which Michael Miano offered the negative. This blog will provide not only the link to the debate, but also some of the follow-up resources that were provided.

You can watch that debate on YouTube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLmRpxRhN4&t=2s

On the Sunday following the debate, Michael Miano preached a sermon titled, “Jesus Christ is the Resurrection” at The Blue Point Bible Church. You can view that sermon (which begins around the 17 minute mark) at the following link,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLCH8370ri4&t=24s

Also, Pastor Miano has also provided an online review of the debate which you can watch the following link as well,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K56-t9LwYo0&t=59s

Lastly, Chris Date participated in post-debate in interview with the Reformed Rookie podcast, which you can view at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGHW3kKUQcM

May these resources encourage your growth in the grace and knowledge of God, and urge you toward a continued ethic of seeking, searching, studying, and proving all things in accordance with the Scriptures.

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Revelation 14 – “Correlating Verses” Outline

This outline is intended to accompany the lecture given by Pastor Michael Miano at The Blue Point Bible Church, which was supposed to be preached at the Spirit & Life Lectures 2018 at Lakeshore Church of Christ. You can listen to the podcasted audio of the lecture at the following link, https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/768323-revelation-chapter-14-lecture-michael-miano


Revelation 14:1 – cf. Revelation 5:5-6; 7:3-10; 12:11; 22:3
“Lamb” – John 1:29, 31; 1 Corinthians 5:7 (cf. 1 Peter 1:19)
            “Mount Zion” – Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. 2 Kings 19:31; Psalm 48:2,11)
            “144,000”/ “Elect” – Matthew 24:24, 31; Luke 18:6-18; John 10:6, 28-30; John 17:6-8

Revelation 14:2 – cf. Revelation 10:8, 16, 17
“Voice from Heaven” – Luke 3:22 (cf. 2 Peter 1:18); Acts 11:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:16
(cf. Job 40:9; Psalm 77:18; Psalm 104:7; Isaiah 29:6)

 

Revelation 14:3 – cf. Revelation 5:9; 15:3
“New Song” –     cf. Exodus chapter 15; Psalm 40:3; 96:1; 144:9; Isaiah 12:10
“Redeemed” – Luke 1:68; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 1:18
“Firstfruits” – Romans 1:16-17; Romans chapters 9 & 15; Romans 8:23; 1 Cor. 15:20-23
“Earth” – in Greek “ge” meaning land

 

Revelation 14:4 – cf. Revelation 17:5; 18:3; 21:2
“Virgins”/ “follow Lamb” – Matthew 25:1-13; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:32
(cf. Lamentation 2:13)
Revelation 14:5
“Without fault” – John 1:47; Hebrews 9:14; Jude 24
(cf. Psalm 32:2,5)

Revelation 14:6
“Everlasting Gospel” – Matthew 24:14; Romans 1:16-17; Ephesians 4:4
(cf. Acts chapters 13, 24, & 26)

Revelation 14:7
            “Fear God”
“Hour of His judgement has come”
“Worship Him”

Revelation 14:8  – cf. Revelation 11:8; 16:10, 17-21; 18:2, 24
“Babylon is fallen”/ “great city” – Matthew 23:35; Luke 13:33-34
(cf. Daniel 9:24-27)

 

Revelation 14:9 – cf. Revelation 13:14-15; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4
“Worship of the beast & his image”
“Mark in hand/forehead” – (cf. Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8; Proverbs 7:31)

 

Revelation 14:10 – cf. Revelation 7:9; 16:9; 19:15, 20; 20:10; 21:8
“Cup of His indignation” – (cf. Psalm 75:8; Isaiah 51:17; Jeremiah 25:15)
“Tormented with fire and brimstone” – (cf. Genesis 19:24; Psalm 11:16; Isaiah 30:33)

 

Revelation 14:11 – cf. Revelation 19:3
“Smoke ascends forever” – (cf. Isaiah 34:10; 51:6)
“No rest” – (cf. Deuteronomy 28:65; Job 3:26; Isaiah 62:7)

 

Revelation 14:12 – cf. Revelation 2:13; 12:17; 13:10
“Patience/Perseverance of the saints” – Luke 8:15; Luke 21:19; Romans 15:4
“Commandments of God” – John 13:34; John 15:17; Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 2:3
“Faith of Jesus” – Romans 3:22, 26; Romans 5:1; 2 Corinthians 13:5

 

Revelation 14:13
“Blessed are the dead from now on” – Hebrews 9:8
“Rest from labors” – 2 Corinthians 7:15 (cf. Jeremiah 30:10; Haggai 2:1-9)

 

Revelation 14:14 -20 – cf. Revelation 6:2; 8:1-6; 11:2; 15:5-16:1; 19:15
“Cloud coming imagery” – Matthew 16:27; Mark 8:28; Acts 1:9-11; Jude 14-15
“Son of Man…sickle” – Matthew 3:11-12; 13:31-34
(cf. Isaiah 63:3; Lamentations 1:15-20; Joel 3:13)
“Vine of the earth” – Matthew 21:33-40  (cf. Isaiah 5:7)

Israel Only Debate: Is It Scripturally Defendable?

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As of March 22nd, 2018 – the debate regarding “Israel Only: Is It Scripturally Defendable?” between Mr.  Michael Bradley and Mr. Michael Miano has come to an end. This was a 4 part debate and a written and video presentation was provided by both participants in each part of the debate. Below you will find all the presentations listed.

DAY 1 – OPENING STATEMENTS

MICHAEL BRADLEY
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/188ftYigkDaNzIkeJan1DHGpbZW65D5Xo/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7flNHob0MUs&feature=youtu.be

MICHAEL MIANO
Written –  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oxnC10sqZD3txOXedStYY1J5s_567apK/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF8JNENAx6g

 

DAY 2 – 1ST ROUND REBUTTALS

MICHAEL MIANO
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O4dEC_PQkuK1w1FVcB14ZNGveKGt3_qm/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFS6h86f7wA&feature=youtu.be

MICHAEL BRADLEY
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fELeuNh_nqmLzLjTqkXiEIsrUOmcXTpV/view
Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtSh6_ZFEvY&feature=youtu.be

 

DAY 3 – 2ND ROUND REBUTTALS

MICHAEL BRADLEY
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HVrzv55megNkdxjSXqMNDhJ7_KmztpIG/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4kjfCQu24&feature=youtu.be

MICHAEL MIANO
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yEVzvaYOnjZZjprE_lhbUAh3wnVJ3Jlb/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OjFpVsOV8&feature=youtu.be

 

DAY 4 – CLOSING STATEMENTS

MICHAEL MIANO
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OLMGwe8kvd3MXiFkYdVQRLS7Ef4A3ddr/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlRey8MRwCw&feature=youtu.be

MICHAEL BRADLEY
Written – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qtJpXs7JiWSXhZl0zN_nvfDyEKK1mwu1/view
Video –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oToWYrZYIuE&feature=youtu.be

 

Also, you can now purchase debate merchandise at the following link, https://teespring.com/stores/preterism-topics

Israel Only: Is It Scripturally Defendable?

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As of this morning, 3/1 – a formal written debate has begun between Michael Miano and Michael Bradley regarding the Israel Only view. The main page for the debate is a public Facebook group. You can access it, even if you do not have Facebook at the following link, https://www.facebook.com/events/147851895931004/
However, the debate components will be posted on this blog and at http://www.powerofpreterism.wordpress.com. Below you can clink on the links to access today’s Opening Statements.

Mr. Michael Bradley’s Opening Statement, https://drive.google.com/file/d/188ftYigkDaNzIkeJan1DHGpbZW65D5Xo/view

Pastor Michael Miano’s Opening Statement, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oxnC10sqZD3txOXedStYY1J5s_567apK/view
Coming Soon (3/8) – Rebuttals

 

An Introduction to and Praise of the Corporate Body View (CBV)

Establishing Himself as the fulfillment of all that was hoped for, Jesus Christ said:

“I am the Resurrection and the Life: he that believes in Me, though he were dead, yet he shall live: and whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this (John 11:25)”.

The Christian believes Jesus Christ to be the fulfillment of all that Israel longed for. The Apostle Paul explained the “hope of resurrection” best when he testified before governor Felix in Acts chapter 24:14-15:

“But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and the Prophets: having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked”.

When we go back to the beginning of the Biblical story we read that Adam suffered death because of disobedience and this “death” was manifested as his being cut off from the garden of Eden and accessing the Tree of Life (essentially the true life manifested in the presence of God), as well as a return to dust. This “death” effected him while he was alive, as well as after he biologically died. His progeny, Israel, began to have a hope for resurrection after they “like Adam transgressed the covenant (cf. Hosea 6:7)”. The Law of Moses was given to Israel as an “atonement” (a covering that provided life when they walked in obedience – cf. Deuteronomy 30:15). However, instead of walking in obedience, Israel walked in disobedience and reaped death. Like the death of Adam, this death effected Israel while they were alive, as well as after biological death. This death was a covenant reality for all of Israel as they failed to walk in obedience to the Law of Moses, however the Law and the Prophets hoped for the “resurrection of the dead”.

“The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the Law (1 Corinthians 15:56)”

When we begin to examine the “hope of Israel” otherwise known as the “resurrection of the dead” through Scripture we arrive at an understanding of the corporate “bodily hope”. Understanding the focal point of this “bodily hope” as a “corporate reality” which establishes eternal life for the dead and the living, is referred to as the Corporate Body View (Salvation in the Body of Christ). This view is in contrast to what is often referred to as the IBV (Individual Body View), which demands that the doctrine of the “resurrection of the dead” involves an individual body that the saints receive – an Individual Body at Death (IBD). CBV advocates demonstrate that the “resurrection passages” found throughout the Bible are speaking about the “change” (alasso in the Greek) of the living saints and the making stand upright (apantesis in the Greek) of the “dead ones” into one immortal “corporate body” (the glorified Body of Christ). CBV advocates also assert that none of the “resurrection passages” found throughout Scripture, nor the “hope of Israel” otherwise known as the doctrine of the “resurrection of the dead”, pertain to any kind of individual body that the saints received or will receive. This is simply a false notion regarding the goal of eschatology that has been passed on throughout Church History, and is built upon faulty presuppositions as well as assumptions (Futurism, the Immortality of the Soul, the Resurrection of the Flesh, to name a few).

“He is the Head of the Body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything (Colossians 1:18)”.

A simple reading through the context of the Apostles Paul’s hope and his writings, say for example reading through the Book of Romans, will show that the “bodily hope” is detailing the death to one body and “newness of life” found in another. This is the Body of which Christ is the Head. It is important to note how Israel under the Law of Moses was understood to be a corporate people, and the Greeks are well known for their great “assemblies” or “bodies” (soma in the Greek) which they boasted in regards to. It was dying to these assemblies/bodies of identification and the being raised into the Body of Christ which would have been readily understood by people inclusively focused as the original audience was. This is what much of the “bodily talk” in the New Testament pertains to. This is a concept that a Hellenized spirituality (a spirituality based upon otherworldly notions that come from the imaginations of men as seen and passed on through Greco-Roman culture), or a 21st century mindset is not necessarily predisposed to.

Also, a Biblical consistency is revealed when we understand the narrative and the context of the “hope of Israel”. The death being defeated through Jesus Christ and the life being offered as represented through baptism begins to make sense. The resurrection of which Colossians 1:8 says that which is first in surely couldn’t be physical biological resurrection since we see this happen many times throughout the Scriptures. Also, as we study the Law and the Prophets, we see how unnecessary discussion about individual realities becomes and instead we develop the a prophetic imagination and get brought into the corporate reality fulfilled through Jesus Christ.

As we continue to see reformation happen within the Body of Christ, especially pertaining to eschatological details (which the “resurrection of the dead” is involved with), we need to move away from these strange notions of and focuses on individual realities, and instead cling to what we might call “resurrection realities”. Consider two texts that pointed to the hope of resurrection and what the outcome would be:

“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever (Daniel 12:2-3)”.

“And the Lord God will save them in that day as the flock of His people; for they are as the stones of a crown, sparkling in His land. For what comeliness and beauty will be theirs! Grain will make the young men flourish, and new wine the virgins (Zechariah 9:16-17)”.

The “resurrection of the dead” is the ultimate conclusion of fulfilled Bible prophecy. The fulfillment of the every joy and tittle of the Law and the Prophets it all that the prophets longed and hoped for. In and through that fulfillment the Mystery of the Ages would be revealed The living and the dead would and were raised into a new “bodily experience” when the Messiah fulfilled all that was necessary for the restitution of all things. The Apostle Paul detailed the overcoming of the covenantal death, which was lamented through the Prophets in this manner:

“But when this perishable will have put on the the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting”.

Praise God for the Corporate Body Resurrection! The Glorified Immortal Body of Christ where Resurrection and Life is found.

 

 

MORE ARTICLES OF PASTOR MICHAEL MIANO’S ON THE CBV VIEW:

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/resurrection-of-the-dead-ones/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/1-corinthians-15-summaries/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/the-effect-of-a-fulfilled-corporate-gospel/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/the-hope-of-israel-transition-part-3/

Sam, Stop Talking…: A Review of the Smackdown on RR

RR = Reviewing Revelation podcast w/ Travis Finley

I want to start this review of a podcast I recently listened to by offering up some context. I debated Mr. Sam Frost in February 2013. Mr. Frost left the “Full Preterist view” as I came into it back in 2012. Sam Frost among others has been vicious in attitude and blatantly rude toward Full Preterism since he left. I must say, I respect Sam Frost’s work when he was a Full Preterist and his willingness to continue to have these discussions with Full Preterists (being one of the few willing Futurists who are willing to engage in controversial discussion on such crucial issues). The resources and edification he has provided in favor of the Preterist view cannot be denied. He published a hardly making sense book on why he left Full Preterism by the title “Why I Left Full Preterism”. You purchase it at the following link, https://store.americanvision.org/products/why-i-left-full-preterism

It was all of that which precipitated by debating him in 2013. You can watch that debate on Youtube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4JEGAsumE

Ever since that debate and all the ad hom attacks that were made following it, I have been persistent in telling leaders and teachers to not give Sam Frost any attention. He has been proven wrong and silly not only in the debate we had, but his reasoning for leaving Full Preterism behind. However, I must say…Mr. Finley did an amazing job exposing the inconsistencies of “Partial Preterism” as well as highlighted the illogical mind of Sam Frost.

Travis Finley highlighted some of what he referred to as “hermeneutical hiccups”, namely detailing how problematic it is to take Matthew chapter 24 and agree about the destruction of Jerusalem being a focal point (obviously if you read Matthew 24:3 as well as Luke 19:41-44) and then switch the point and make it about the end of the world. Sam Frost tried to assert that verse 36 diverges and it becomes about the end of the world. Yikes! All of this just further serves to demonstrate as Mr. Finley rightly noted, “a pre-commitment to futurism”. Talk about hermeneutical gymnastics!

After listening to Travis and Sam talk about the “perpescuity of Scripture”, I was urged to rethink that concept I haven’t heard in quite some time. Here is a link to the Theopedia defintion, http://www.theopedia.com/clarity-of-scripture

Sam Frost went on quite a few rants, however in one specific one he began to detail all the different 2nd Temple eschatologies that had developed within the culture that Jesus Christ came to. I absolutely loved Travis’ “I don’t give a hoot” response. Sam Frost clearly doesn’t care how silly it sounds to say the disciples didn’t understand the details being written to them however we do (which is an argument he usually tries to twist and use against Full Preterists). Here is an example. When Sam accuses Full Preterists of having an understanding that the original audience would not have had this is usually based on his ignorance of the topic and how it was understood in this context (no worries this can be alleviated by a little bit of historical and cultural context of details found in Scripture). However when Sam is cornered on contradictions within his view he asserts that there is a “sophisticated world of eschatology” that even the Apostles did not understand. Whoa!

The discussion that Travis and Sam had about “heaven and earth” was very telling. I must acknowledge Travis’ calm demeanor and clear detailing during the show (in obvious contrast to Mr. Frost’s aggressiveness). Even those listening with me referred to Mr. Finley as the “calm guy” and recognized the need to pray for Mr. Frost. Also, Sam Frost clearly doesn’t understand poetic language. Travis did great in the discussion regarding poetic language and the use of Psalm 102. Sam went on a rant about “poetic bones” which was very revealing in regards to his reading of Biblical literature. Boy oh boy has he intellectually reverted.

The final discussion on the “death of Adam” surely was silly. Ultimately it led to a usual confusion and immediate attack that happens when people are told to take a step back and look at Scripture through the proper historical and cultural context, and then find your place in the narrative. Not surprising of 21st century Bible teachers who want to cling to “traditional teachings seemingly be as indivividualist ego-eccentric as the rest of the culture. Thus Mr. Frost’s rant about people dying, suffering, and those stuck in depravity.

I loved the broadcast and was inspired to write a quick review. Here is the link to the podcast, https://www.spreaker.com/user/rtb4tftx/episode-54-smackdown-rr-style-baby

Thanks Travis! Your a blessing to the Body!

Blessings in Christ Jesus,

Pastor Michael Miano

SHARED DISCUSSION: 4th Sunday Discussion Group Details at BPBC

At the Blue Point Bible Church (www.bluepointbiblechurch.org), we strive toward ‘Making Known the Manifold Wisdom of God, in Word and in Deed’. In accordance with, I (Pastor Michael Miano) have allowed for what we call a 4th Sunday Discussion Group, a time when people in our congregation can ask some questions.

In this blog, I want to share the details that we discussed this Sunday, and prayerfully provide both clarity, as well as encouragement for you to study further.

In my sermon on Sunday, I detailed the possibility of Jesus ben Ananus being a demonstration of the “two witnesses” found in Revelation chapter 11. In our discussion group, it was brought up that Jesus ben Ananus could very well be a “type of Christ”. I shared that the commentator, Daniel Morais, from whom I borrowed the concept does detail that in his commentary. Surely something we can study out. Here is the link to that commentary:

http://revelationrevolution.org/revelation-11-a-preterist-commentary-who-are-the-two-witnesses/

Also, here is the podcasted sermon of what I preached this Sunday:

http://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/318731-the-apocalyptic-details-of-revelation-chapters-11-12

In our group discussion we also talked about the ‘mystery of God’ as revealed through the prophets, more specifically as mentioned in 1 Peter chapter 1. Pastor Miano detailed that the New Covenant and all that we have in and through Jesus Christ is the mystery itself- something that a proper reading through Ephesians chapter 1-3, as well as Romans chapters 8-15 should reveal.

Our conversation then turned toward ‘evangelism’, ‘the gospel’, as well as how God’s sovereignty plays a part in all of that. If God knows all, and all things happen in accordance with His will- why pray? Why evangelize? I was glad to answer questions to the best of my ability in these regards, as well as exhort the saints to continue to study. Pastor John Piper’s messages and websites, as well as Monergism.com have been great resources in these regards. For example here is a link, http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-sovereignty-of-god-and-prayer

I pray that I was able to make it clear that God is honored through our attempts at ‘prayer’ and ‘evangelism’ even if it doesn’t all make sense to us, however His Word commands it, and therefore we “walk worthy” by offering it. Surely where we can all agree is that God is always pleased when we do those things which He asks.

As we concluded our discussion we excitedly talked about “making known the Gospel”. How can we do that? What is a simple expression of the Gospel that is faithful to the story from Genesis to Revelation?

I look forward to producing a video in the next couple days that will be made available through Youtube on how we can best preach what I refer to as the “Fulfilled Gospel” in less than 6 minutes, and not offer a ‘cut & paste Gospel’, but rather a presentation that is true to the Biblical text and expresses the full gospel story from creation to consummation. A simple way I will explain it here is this:

As with everything, we must rightly define the PROBLEM – the Bible starts with a creation story wherein prior to God “acting” the earth was “formless and void”. Scholars have pointed our this is equivalent to saying ‘useless’ akin to a ‘desert wasteland’. How many peoples lives to do you know who can be described in that manner?

That being noted we move to the SOLUTION. The whole Biblical Narrative is about the failure of Old Covenant Israel to walk in line with the ‘things of God’ (a longer drawn out story very similar to the ‘Garden of Eden’). Simply put, in order for man to live a life that glorifies God which in turn offers blessings, and as Jesus Christ put it Himself “life to the full” (see, John 10:10), man needs a savior. Not a faulty solution- as our culture offers so many “faulty solutions”, we know that Jesus Christ- His life, His death, His sacrifice, His teachings all offer “life to the full” and that is what we offer as we seek to ehort the nations to “know and practice” the teachings of Jesus (see, Matthew chapter 7 verses 7 through 27).

And finally, once we make clear the PROBLEM, as well as the ‘proposed SOLUTION’, we then want to “close the deal”, which in contrast to a “hasty Gospel’ which is preached through the Sinner’s Prayer and a ‘ticket to heaven’, we offer DISCIPLESHIP. As one of my favorite writers notes, “For the disciple of Jesus, discipleship is not the first step toward a promising career. Discipleship is the fulfillment of your life long destiny”. The people around us want “life to the full”, some know it, some don’t. What we offer through “Jesus Christ” is the opportunity to find and live in the reality of a “fulfilling life” which is only found by way of the true knowledge of God (see, 2 Peter chapter 1).

Also, I believe the two writings that I have made available over the last two days may also be helpful to you.

Here is an article on the verses that point to “every knee bowing to Jesus”, which I wrote for TFC Magazine:

http://www.tfcmag.com/article-home.php?id=252&p=&search=#ontitle

And here is a blog on “Discipleship” that I posted yesterday:

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2015/10/28/rendering-you-neither-useless-nor-unfruitful-in-the-knowledge-of-god-make-disciples/

In His Service,

Pastor Michael Miano

Director, The Power of Preterism Network

LONG ISLAND: Dishonest Futurism Strikes Again – 9/25/2015 – PRESS RELEASE

The Full Preterist view of the “End Times” has caused so much of a challenge to “Christian thought”, that now local Christian leaders across the United States, especially here on Long Island are avoiding having to deal with the details.

The “End Times” of Bible prophecy has been in the media a lot lately, as some Christians have posited the ‘end of the world’ is near, especially regarding the “blood moons” and “the rapture”. As of today, 9/25/2015, we can all say we survived yet again another false end time prediction.

Full Preterism has a lot to say about this, instead of constant false prediction after prediction, the Full Preterist view of Bible prophecy gives evidence that these events are in the past, specifically regarding the events of the Roman-Jewish War of A.D. 64-70.

Pastor Michael Miano, of the Blue Point Bible Church (which is a local church that adheres to the “Full Preterist View”), has continually affirmed and defended that the Biblical “end times” are indeed in the past.

Pastor Miano debated Pastor Bruce Bennett, of the Word of Truth Church, in 2013 regarding the “end times”, a Youtube video of that debate has reached over 11,000 views. You can view that debate by copy & pasting the following link into your browser:

Ironically, Pastor Bruce Bennett is hosting an examination of different views of the “end times” next week, October 2nd-3rd, and did not invite the “Full Preterist” view to be represented. He may claim this is because he does not feel the need to have it represented, however Pastor Miano notes this is because Pastor Bennett knows that Full Preterism cannot be refuted, especially when compared with other confusing “Futurist views” of the “end times”. (Futurism means that the “end times” are in the future, where as “Preterism” asserts the “end times” in the past).

Pastor Bruce Bennett’s dishonest look at the “End Times” will be October 2nd-3rd, 2015 at Word of Truth Church- and on, Sunday, October 4th, Pastor Miano will begin a series explaining the Book of Revelation from a Full Preterist view- the end times completed in the first century, not in our future…and ultimately, what that means for us today- at The Blue Point Bible Church.

Also, a recent broadcast of ‘Iron sharpens Iron’ hosted by Mr. Christopher Arnzen hosted an interview with a supposed “former” Full Preterist, who spoke about a bunch of questions that need to be asked of the “full preterist”, yet Pastor Miano has noted that public engagements are rarely opened up to responses from proponents of Full Preterism.

This is all nothing short of dishonesty.

Pastor Michael Miano has asserted that Full Preterism Has Answers (which is the title of a new Youtube series he is hosting) and has challenged any local pastors on Long Island to show him where he is wrong. He has opened up a public debate setting, at The Blue Point Bible Church, in March of each year to further show that it is the “Futurist view” of Bible prophecy that cannot be held up to Biblical examination, not the “Preterist View”.

Furthermore, Pastor Miano has invited any pastor to debate the “Resurrection of the Dead” in March 2016 (which the opponents keep saying in what proves “Full Preterism” wrong). Will anyone answer the call?

Stay tuned to the Power of Preterism Network, or The Blue Point Bible Church (located in Blue Point, New York) for further information.

Websites for further information are as follows:

www.powerofpreterism.com

www.bluepointbiblechurch.org

Eschatology Debate Proposal (Preterism/ Futurism)

Dear Dr. John Pretlove,
First Baptist Church of Lakes
Las Vegas, Nevada

Dr. Pretlove, I approach you with this proposal in His holy service, and pray that all that is mentioned herein is received with humility and gentleness – as that is the intention I am writing with.

Recently, I have heard quite a bit of interest in the Las Vegas area regarding the truth of Full Preterism and the reforms it is provoking in congregations all over not only the United States, but also all over the world. This comes as a blessing, yet as with any reformation in Christian thought, it comes with iron sharpening iron. Paradigm shifts are never gentle, especially when the leaders are at the forefront labeling things “heresy”.

I listened to your sermon on 1 Corinthians chapter 15 that you podcast-ed as of July 12th, 2015. In said sermon you make some statements regarding those in the midst of your congregation who have expressed interest in these reforms, and then you proceed to misrepresent the Full Preterist position of the “Resurrection of the Dead” as a ‘Gnostic heresy’.

I have debated in defense of Full Preterism before, focusing on God’s glory in our debate, as well as mutually edifying conversation. You can watch some of these debates/ discussions on YouTube.

I say all of that to make a proposal to you. Since you did you diligent duty of what you see as “rebuking heresy” from the pulpit, I am now asking you to follow through and properly” debunk Preterism” in an honest way, not setting up what one might call a “straw man”.
Here is the proposal:

December 2015 at First Baptist Church of Lakes (you pick the dates- 2 nights)
Topic – The Work of Christ: What Has Been Fulfilled & What Has Not?!?!

1st Night we will present 30 minute arguments against each others position and answer audience concerns.

2nd Night we will do a debate and have final statements.

(of course we can deal with all the details once you accept this basic proposal)

I firmly believe that we can do this in a manner that glorifies God, challenges both of us to look honestly at our positions, and answer concerns of those within your congregation. Also, since you have seemingly “attacked” those in your midst preaching against a false version of “Full Preterism”, it seems fair to challenge you regarding the true position of Full Preterism, especially regarding “The Resurrection of the Dead”.

I will be looking forward to your response.

In Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano
Blue Point Bibe Church

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Local Newspaper Submission: A Pastor’s Response to the Stronghold of Heroin

We live in a society of conflict. What I mean is that we as a community, have such varied views on everything from fashion to moral values that often we can hardly agree on any one thing. This isn’t necessarily anything new.
Ancient cultures often found themselves at conflict with each other as well. Strongholds were the places of seeming refuge when invading forces came into a certain culture, usually built with high walls and set at a high place. These strongholds would provide a walled-in safety from invaders- however reliance upon them was not always reliable- especially if you found yourself fighting against God. Instead of keeping you safe, this stronghold would instead keep you captive and would deliver you right into the hands of the enemy. This reality is depicted through the historical story of how God defeated and destroyed nations that stood in opposition to what He was doing in and through ancient Israel. They relied upon their strongholds to give them security, safety, and life.
In 2 Corinthians chapter 10, Paul, a leading disciple of Jesus Christ in the first century, utilized the ancient understanding of strongholds in a metaphoric way. Inspired by God, the Apostle Paul remarked, “For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.”
 Just as when ancients cultures rebelled against the things of God and sought out “strongholds” for safety and life itself, rather than destruction, so we find many in our society doing the same today. Our culture continually seeks to establish different ways to find life resulting in the same idolatry that destroyed ancient cultures who rebelled against the things of God.
When idols were set up, demons pervaded the land. This is nothing short of what we see here in our Western culture – demons running rampant destroying lives, families, and our culture as a whole. Heroin is surely one of these demons, a manifestation of the idolatry prevalent in our culture. This is clearly a stronghold in need of destruction that the Christian community must encounter and demolish.
 The obvious question is “How?”
Some pastors are content with casting out “demons” and rely upon an understanding of waiting for God to do something, however a priest once remarked, “Good things come to those who wait, but great things come to those who get off their butts and go find God at work.”
I have opportunity to be in communication with good men and women who struggled with addiction and now seek to provide wise counsel to those stuck in addiction, hole up in a stronghold, or oppressed by the demon of Heroin. God is surely at work.
Battles are usually hard-work and require perseverance to ensure the defeat of the enemy. I am glad to say that the program- Heroin Anonymous- has God on their side, as they wage war on this deadly stronghold.
You can learn more about this organization, which itself professes, “Our only desire is to be helpful to the suffering heroin addict.”, by visiting http://heroinanonymous.org
 Or visit a local meeting. There are various held across Long Island. At Blue Point Bible Church there is a Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday meeting held at 8pm.
I pray you see the victory in having such programs, that take abstract theology and put the “healing” into practical reality.
In Service to Jesus Christ,
 Pastor Michael Miano
 Blue Point Bible Church