“Resurrection Talk” – Explained & Reviewed

The other night I put out a video called “Resurrection Talk” wherein I sought to explain with clarity the Corporate Body View (CBV) and the differentiation between what happened to the living, the asleep, and the dead ones at the coming of the Lord. You can watch that video at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMUhZ2_BI5M&t=450s

In that video I explained the following points:

  • Properly frame discussion by looking at what the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:1 – 11, in regards to the exodus event being recorded as an “example” upon those whom them ends of the age had come (I use past tense to point back to the 1st century). So looking back to the exodus, and having a familiarity with the “Law and the Prophets” as mentioned by the Apostle Paul to be the very source of his preaching the “resurrection of the dead” (cf. Acts 24:14-15; Acts 26:22-23)
  • In this video we will specifically focus on two texts – 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 and 1 Corinthians chapter 15.
  • As we go through the texts keep in mind the distinctions – the living (being those alive during the time of the coming of the Lord (cf. Matthew 16:27-28; Hebrews 8:13; Romans 8: 18-19, the asleep (cf. those who cannot die because they put faith in Jesus Christ but had biologically died during the time of transition. See, John 11:11, 25-26; 1 John 3:4), and the dead ones (cf. those who died prior to the birth of the Messiah; Hebrews 11:1 – 40).
  • We must maintain a corporate understanding of these things. This would have been already in the mind of the original Believers, yet due to the rise of Hellenism, individualist notions, secular humanism, and so much more, we have moved far away from necessary understating. Looking back to the exodus event, we note that the Israelites saw it as important to take Joseph’s bones with them (cf. Exodus 13:19). Also, 1 Corinthians 14:36 and Hebrews 11:39-40 are texts that reinforce the understanding that whatever was happening to a certain people (living), it was always important to consider from whom it originally came, and to know that whatever happens now (especially in regards to God’s covenant relationships) will bless those who have come before us (dead ones). This is all speaking about how the different groups of people would be effected by the transition of the covenants (Old to New Covenant).
  • In regards to 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, I made the point that this text is informing the living how they should have hope regarding those who “had fallen asleep” (v.13). As per the text, the asleep will come with the Lord at His coming (v. 14), then those who are living will be gathered together (Greek word – harpazo – means to seize, the directional word “up” is an interpreter’s addition) to meet the Lord in the Spirit (Greek word aer means spirit or breathe, not the sky). This was the meeting with the Lord(Greek word – apantesis – usually used to depict a people going out to meet a king and follow him to his enthronement). The summation is the victory words, “…and so shall we ever be with the Lord (v. 17). I had mentioned that this Apostolic teaching seems to be directed toward a heresy that seemingly began in Thessalonica to disrupt the Gospel efforts, namely that “those who had fallen asleep” would miss out on the coming rewards to be given at the coming of the Lord.
  • In regards to 1 Corinthians 15:1- 58, I marked out the point of the text to be saying there will and must be a “resurrection of the dead” (Greek – “anastatis nekroi – a standing again of the dead ones”) and then discussion regarding how, or as the text says “with what kind of body will they come?” (v.35).  We note that there were many teaching false doctrines regarding how the goal of the ages was being revealed and seeking to corrupt the minds of those who had put their faith in Christ Jesus. In 2 Timothy 2:14-18, we read of two men particularly who went about teaching that the resurrection had already occurred (prior to the destruction of the Temple) which was marked out as a false teaching that disrupted the faith of many. The “resurrection of the dead” was vital to the fulfillment of the things because of what we marked out above about the necessary corporate understanding and that is exactly why the Apostle quotes two Old Testament passages right from the start of this chapter (v. 3 cf. Isaiah 52:14; Isaiah 53:1-12; v. 4 cf. Hosea 6:2). This becomes evident when we become immersed in the Biblical narrative. The point of the Apostolic teaching in 1 Corinthians chapter 15 is to highlight that if there was to be no “resurrection of the dead” (which points back those who died under the Law and the Prophets) than those who had “fallen asleep” have no hope (v.18), those who preach and believe are doing so in vain (v.17-19). God subjected the Old Covenant to death to produce life, a beautiful reality we see in nature. There was a natural body (Old Covenant people) and there is a Spiritual body (New Covenant).  Both had their glory (v.38-44) but flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (v. 50). Jesus Christ was the revealing of the mystery of which the Apostle speaks about in verse 51. At the coming the Lord, some would be alive and not sleep (cf. Matthew 16:27-28; 1 Thessalonians 4:17), and would be changed (Greek word – Alasso – meaning to go from one mind to another; full clearing of conscience) and the dead would be raised incorruptible and immortal by way of the victory we have through Jesus Christ (v. 57). The dead would be raised in Christ Jesus and would be in the “one new man” (cf. Ephesians 2:15; 3:4-12; 4:22-24). It was this hope, the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets (two texts specifically cited in verses 54-55 are Isaiah 25:8 and Hosea 13:14), being fulfilled, that should cause us to be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the word of the Lord, knowing that we do not labor in vain (v.12). He is faithful to His promises indeed!

A few last remarks. I am putting my crazy drawing below (lol) of how I see all of this “resurrection talk” taking place at the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. Surely study and discussion should continue in these regards to work out and further explain details, even leaving room for corrections. However, in my estimation, this is a clear and concise foundational understanding of the things we see herein and need not be disturbed or mis-characterized by those who unfortunately take pride in doing such. May we find unity in the positive remarks found in both texts regarding encouraging and comforting one another and being steadfast and abounding in our work in the Lord.

Blessings in the Lord,
Michael Miano

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“At the core of the individual resurrection (which is passed off as a doctrinal matter by Christians) is a Greek dualistic anthropology and Western individualism”. – William Bell

April 2018 – Preterist Conferences

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Well, glory to God! This past weekend (April 20-22) there were 2 Preterist conferences happening at the same time. The Berean Bible Church led by Pastor David Curtis had their usual annual conference (which dvd/mp3 ordering will begin for soon). Many attend and speak of the edification that comes from BBC. Visit their website to get more information, http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

However, I am writing this blog to speak about the Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar. I am just now realizing that there was a debate between well-known Preterist leader Dr. John Noe and Church of Christ preacher Steve Baisden (who is also a Preterist). I know I am looking forward to checking that out. Also, they had a great line up of speakers – Mr. Scott Klaft, Mr. Holger Neubauer, Mr. Roy Runyon, and Mr. Charles Parsley. Admittedly, I have only read a few things by these names, however they seem to be on the frontline of the reformation happening not only in the Churches of Christ, but even within the larger Christian body. As I said at the beginning, glory to God! The following link has details about the speakers and the conference, http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

I am looking to having an interview with the lead preacher, John Watson, from Westside Church of Christ (where this conference happened) in weeks to come. Matter of fact, tune in to the Hairy Ticks Variety Show on TFC Radio (www.tfcradio.org) on Tuesday, May 1st and you will get to hear that interview.

Also, in the meantime, I’d like to encourage you to view the resources that have been put out from this conference. I know I will be diving in to the details throughout this week. The following link is to the YouTube page where you can view the speakers for yourself, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEmsXxNOI45GFZIGmfA1kog

May we continue to see God glorified as we study and discern His Truth!

In Service to Christ Jesus,

Michael Miano
Pastor, Blue Point Bible Church
Director, The Power of Preterism Network

Crossroads Examined: Review of BPBC’s Conference

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I shared all about the conference earlier today on this weeks broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show. Here is a link to that show, https://www.spreaker.com/user/10014082/3-27-2018

I figured I would also write out some pertinent highlights from the Examining Crossroads: Biblical Controversies Conference that happened this past weekend (March 23-25, 2018) at The Blue Point Bible Church. Many praised God that this 5th annual Bible conference was the best one we have had yet at BPBC. Glory to God!

FUTURE STUDIES & TOPICS

Mr. Glenn Hill will be coming out with a book in the near future, Christianity’s Great Deception (detailing the doctrine of hell). Also, Mr. David King has since made a Facebook page, group, and website by the title “Hell Is Not Real”. (Check out www.hellisnotreal.com)

I will continue to bring forth details about “Conceptual Salvation” and “Soma Salvation”, both of which I spoke about at the conference. Keep your eyes tuned for more blogs at www.mianogonewild.wordpress.com

Mr. Adam Maarschalk has brought forth some challenging ideas regarding a 1000 year millennium between the two great revolts (63-73 AD & 132 – 135 AD). Keep an eye on his blog (www.adammaarschalk.com) and I look forward to having him as a guest soon on the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Pastor Steve Schilling highlighted the necessity of studies of atonement and the correlation of “pitch” in the Hebrew (the same word) and the significance, as well as distinction of understanding Jesus Christ as our propitiation (cf. 1 John 2:2).

Mr. Ancil McBarnett highlighted a great Biblical history of “Heaven and Earth”. His presentation challenged us to develop a track record of “light” and “darkness” as found through the Biblical narrative. Also, Ancil recommended reading Isaiah chapters 51-65 in an attempt to better understand the prophetic realities of “Heaven and Earth”. I look forward to a transcript of his presentation and to further engage his thoughts on an upcoming broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Dr. Cindye Coates offered up great insights regarding “God’s government” and how we must walk in a manner of; 1. Being fruitful; 2. Increasing and multiplying; 3. Having dominion; 4. Subduing all things; and 5. Replenishing things. I look forward to further dialogue with Dr. Cindye Coates on an upcoming episode of HTVS as well.

 

#TeamPRETERIST – UPCOMING PRETERIST CONFERENCES

Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar – April 20-21
Westside Church of Christ/ Contact – John Watson http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

How Shall We Then Live – April 20-22
Berean Bible Church, Virginia Beach/ Contact – Pastor David Curtis http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

Springville Lecture: The Time of the End – May 4-6
Springville Church of Christ, California/ Contact – Brent Bischel
* No web link at this time

Creationfest Northeast(Music Festival/ Preterists Meet-up) – June 27-30
Agape Farms, Pennsylvania
https://creationfest.com/ne/

Preterist Pilgrim Weekend – July 12-14
Preterist Research Institute, Ardmore, Oklahoma/ Contact – Don Preston http://www.bibleprophecy.com/events-2/annual-ppw/

Texas – The Big Texas Conference – September 21-23
Kerrville, Texas/ Contact – TJ Smith http://bigtex2018.info/

 

I surely hope to see and/or meet you at one of these conferences in the very near future. Not only that, but I pray that through this blog, I have furthered encouraged your diligent studies and maybe provided you with some resources.

Blessings in Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano The Blue Point Bible Church The Power of Preterism Network

BOOK REVIEW: Final Decade Before the End by Mr. Ed Stevens

In the Christian circles that I navigate Mr. Ed Stevens is known as one of the best resources for Jewish and Christian history. This book, Final Decade Before the End, is A MUST READ for anyone serious about understanding ‘Jewish and Christian history just before the Jewish Revolt’. He really delivered on his promise to offer a ‘historical reconstruction’ help “form a comprehensive understanding of what was really happening to Christianity during that final decade just before the end.”

At the Blue Point Bible Church, where I serve as pastor, we have been going through the “Biblical Narrative” from Genesis to Revelation since February 2015. Mr. Stevens book has been the ‘resource above resources’ for my study into the culture and time of the New Testament writings.

Not only does he provide a basic timetable for the writing and courier activity of the New Testament writings, he also provides important chronological details during that time. Also noteworthy for sure is his constant use of not just quotes, but entire passages from early, almost ancient historians such as Josephus, Tacitus, Seneca, Suetonius, among others.

I write this as I have just finished reading his book this afternoon – I took time using it as a reference tool for the past 3 months. However, now that we have embarked upon understanding the ‘Book of Revelation’ in our congregation, I felt it necessary to read through the whole book to get the ‘juicy details’ concerning the history of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish war. ‘;

Regarding the ‘history of the end’, Mr. Stevens delivers a writing with powerful evidence in first century Bible prophecy fulfillment, surely details you want to have as we continue bringing forth the truth of Full Preterism. I cannot say it enough, this is A MUST HAVE RESOURCE!

All of that said, there are surely areas I found myself disagreeing with Mr. Stevens, specifically his explanation of why the historic church did not document nor provide evidence of the experiences of the ‘time of the end’ – ie., the rapture theory. Also, as I examined the charts Mr. Stevens provides regarding the ‘expectations of the saints’, I found myself disagreeing with his reference to the hope of individual bodies at death and the nature of that fulfillment in regards to the ‘resurrection of the dead’. I look forward to interacting with these details in the near future.

Again, I note the disagreement just to be honest in my review, however take those areas out (to be agreeable with my position) or keep them it, the book is still amazing! I will continue to recommend the resources of Mr. Stevens- especially, as we encourage others to understand the historic events of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish War.

“We are devoted to chasing after the Biblical and Historical Truth, wherever it leads, and whatever it takes. This book was written for truth chasers like you”. – Ed Stevens

Order your copy at the following link:http://www.preterist.org/products/final-decade-before-the-end-print-edition

In Christ’s Name,

Michael Miano

P.S. – Mr. Stevens book also helped me solidify my position on the Millennium noting the events prior to A.D. 64, and what would follow after with the Neronian persecution. This was a big deal to me and I feel forever indebted to him for that!