Revelation 14 – “Correlating Verses” Outline

This outline is intended to accompany the lecture given by Pastor Michael Miano at The Blue Point Bible Church, which was supposed to be preached at the Spirit & Life Lectures 2018 at Lakeshore Church of Christ. You can listen to the podcasted audio of the lecture at the following link, https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/768323-revelation-chapter-14-lecture-michael-miano


Revelation 14:1 – cf. Revelation 5:5-6; 7:3-10; 12:11; 22:3
“Lamb” – John 1:29, 31; 1 Corinthians 5:7 (cf. 1 Peter 1:19)
            “Mount Zion” – Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. 2 Kings 19:31; Psalm 48:2,11)
            “144,000”/ “Elect” – Matthew 24:24, 31; Luke 18:6-18; John 10:6, 28-30; John 17:6-8

Revelation 14:2 – cf. Revelation 10:8, 16, 17
“Voice from Heaven” – Luke 3:22 (cf. 2 Peter 1:18); Acts 11:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:16
(cf. Job 40:9; Psalm 77:18; Psalm 104:7; Isaiah 29:6)

 

Revelation 14:3 – cf. Revelation 5:9; 15:3
“New Song” –     cf. Exodus chapter 15; Psalm 40:3; 96:1; 144:9; Isaiah 12:10
“Redeemed” – Luke 1:68; Galatians 3:13; 1 Peter 1:18
“Firstfruits” – Romans 1:16-17; Romans chapters 9 & 15; Romans 8:23; 1 Cor. 15:20-23
“Earth” – in Greek “ge” meaning land

 

Revelation 14:4 – cf. Revelation 17:5; 18:3; 21:2
“Virgins”/ “follow Lamb” – Matthew 25:1-13; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:32
(cf. Lamentation 2:13)
Revelation 14:5
“Without fault” – John 1:47; Hebrews 9:14; Jude 24
(cf. Psalm 32:2,5)

Revelation 14:6
“Everlasting Gospel” – Matthew 24:14; Romans 1:16-17; Ephesians 4:4
(cf. Acts chapters 13, 24, & 26)

Revelation 14:7
            “Fear God”
“Hour of His judgement has come”
“Worship Him”

Revelation 14:8  – cf. Revelation 11:8; 16:10, 17-21; 18:2, 24
“Babylon is fallen”/ “great city” – Matthew 23:35; Luke 13:33-34
(cf. Daniel 9:24-27)

 

Revelation 14:9 – cf. Revelation 13:14-15; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4
“Worship of the beast & his image”
“Mark in hand/forehead” – (cf. Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8; Proverbs 7:31)

 

Revelation 14:10 – cf. Revelation 7:9; 16:9; 19:15, 20; 20:10; 21:8
“Cup of His indignation” – (cf. Psalm 75:8; Isaiah 51:17; Jeremiah 25:15)
“Tormented with fire and brimstone” – (cf. Genesis 19:24; Psalm 11:16; Isaiah 30:33)

 

Revelation 14:11 – cf. Revelation 19:3
“Smoke ascends forever” – (cf. Isaiah 34:10; 51:6)
“No rest” – (cf. Deuteronomy 28:65; Job 3:26; Isaiah 62:7)

 

Revelation 14:12 – cf. Revelation 2:13; 12:17; 13:10
“Patience/Perseverance of the saints” – Luke 8:15; Luke 21:19; Romans 15:4
“Commandments of God” – John 13:34; John 15:17; Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 2:3
“Faith of Jesus” – Romans 3:22, 26; Romans 5:1; 2 Corinthians 13:5

 

Revelation 14:13
“Blessed are the dead from now on” – Hebrews 9:8
“Rest from labors” – 2 Corinthians 7:15 (cf. Jeremiah 30:10; Haggai 2:1-9)

 

Revelation 14:14 -20 – cf. Revelation 6:2; 8:1-6; 11:2; 15:5-16:1; 19:15
“Cloud coming imagery” – Matthew 16:27; Mark 8:28; Acts 1:9-11; Jude 14-15
“Son of Man…sickle” – Matthew 3:11-12; 13:31-34
(cf. Isaiah 63:3; Lamentations 1:15-20; Joel 3:13)
“Vine of the earth” – Matthew 21:33-40  (cf. Isaiah 5:7)

Sam, Stop Talking…: A Review of the Smackdown on RR

RR = Reviewing Revelation podcast w/ Travis Finley

I want to start this review of a podcast I recently listened to by offering up some context. I debated Mr. Sam Frost in February 2013. Mr. Frost left the “Full Preterist view” as I came into it back in 2012. Sam Frost among others has been vicious in attitude and blatantly rude toward Full Preterism since he left. I must say, I respect Sam Frost’s work when he was a Full Preterist and his willingness to continue to have these discussions with Full Preterists (being one of the few willing Futurists who are willing to engage in controversial discussion on such crucial issues). The resources and edification he has provided in favor of the Preterist view cannot be denied. He published a hardly making sense book on why he left Full Preterism by the title “Why I Left Full Preterism”. You purchase it at the following link, https://store.americanvision.org/products/why-i-left-full-preterism

It was all of that which precipitated by debating him in 2013. You can watch that debate on Youtube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4JEGAsumE

Ever since that debate and all the ad hom attacks that were made following it, I have been persistent in telling leaders and teachers to not give Sam Frost any attention. He has been proven wrong and silly not only in the debate we had, but his reasoning for leaving Full Preterism behind. However, I must say…Mr. Finley did an amazing job exposing the inconsistencies of “Partial Preterism” as well as highlighted the illogical mind of Sam Frost.

Travis Finley highlighted some of what he referred to as “hermeneutical hiccups”, namely detailing how problematic it is to take Matthew chapter 24 and agree about the destruction of Jerusalem being a focal point (obviously if you read Matthew 24:3 as well as Luke 19:41-44) and then switch the point and make it about the end of the world. Sam Frost tried to assert that verse 36 diverges and it becomes about the end of the world. Yikes! All of this just further serves to demonstrate as Mr. Finley rightly noted, “a pre-commitment to futurism”. Talk about hermeneutical gymnastics!

After listening to Travis and Sam talk about the “perpescuity of Scripture”, I was urged to rethink that concept I haven’t heard in quite some time. Here is a link to the Theopedia defintion, http://www.theopedia.com/clarity-of-scripture

Sam Frost went on quite a few rants, however in one specific one he began to detail all the different 2nd Temple eschatologies that had developed within the culture that Jesus Christ came to. I absolutely loved Travis’ “I don’t give a hoot” response. Sam Frost clearly doesn’t care how silly it sounds to say the disciples didn’t understand the details being written to them however we do (which is an argument he usually tries to twist and use against Full Preterists). Here is an example. When Sam accuses Full Preterists of having an understanding that the original audience would not have had this is usually based on his ignorance of the topic and how it was understood in this context (no worries this can be alleviated by a little bit of historical and cultural context of details found in Scripture). However when Sam is cornered on contradictions within his view he asserts that there is a “sophisticated world of eschatology” that even the Apostles did not understand. Whoa!

The discussion that Travis and Sam had about “heaven and earth” was very telling. I must acknowledge Travis’ calm demeanor and clear detailing during the show (in obvious contrast to Mr. Frost’s aggressiveness). Even those listening with me referred to Mr. Finley as the “calm guy” and recognized the need to pray for Mr. Frost. Also, Sam Frost clearly doesn’t understand poetic language. Travis did great in the discussion regarding poetic language and the use of Psalm 102. Sam went on a rant about “poetic bones” which was very revealing in regards to his reading of Biblical literature. Boy oh boy has he intellectually reverted.

The final discussion on the “death of Adam” surely was silly. Ultimately it led to a usual confusion and immediate attack that happens when people are told to take a step back and look at Scripture through the proper historical and cultural context, and then find your place in the narrative. Not surprising of 21st century Bible teachers who want to cling to “traditional teachings seemingly be as indivividualist ego-eccentric as the rest of the culture. Thus Mr. Frost’s rant about people dying, suffering, and those stuck in depravity.

I loved the broadcast and was inspired to write a quick review. Here is the link to the podcast, https://www.spreaker.com/user/rtb4tftx/episode-54-smackdown-rr-style-baby

Thanks Travis! Your a blessing to the Body!

Blessings in Christ Jesus,

Pastor Michael Miano

Eschatology Debate Proposal (Preterism/ Futurism)

Dear Dr. John Pretlove,
First Baptist Church of Lakes
Las Vegas, Nevada

Dr. Pretlove, I approach you with this proposal in His holy service, and pray that all that is mentioned herein is received with humility and gentleness – as that is the intention I am writing with.

Recently, I have heard quite a bit of interest in the Las Vegas area regarding the truth of Full Preterism and the reforms it is provoking in congregations all over not only the United States, but also all over the world. This comes as a blessing, yet as with any reformation in Christian thought, it comes with iron sharpening iron. Paradigm shifts are never gentle, especially when the leaders are at the forefront labeling things “heresy”.

I listened to your sermon on 1 Corinthians chapter 15 that you podcast-ed as of July 12th, 2015. In said sermon you make some statements regarding those in the midst of your congregation who have expressed interest in these reforms, and then you proceed to misrepresent the Full Preterist position of the “Resurrection of the Dead” as a ‘Gnostic heresy’.

I have debated in defense of Full Preterism before, focusing on God’s glory in our debate, as well as mutually edifying conversation. You can watch some of these debates/ discussions on YouTube.

I say all of that to make a proposal to you. Since you did you diligent duty of what you see as “rebuking heresy” from the pulpit, I am now asking you to follow through and properly” debunk Preterism” in an honest way, not setting up what one might call a “straw man”.
Here is the proposal:

December 2015 at First Baptist Church of Lakes (you pick the dates- 2 nights)
Topic – The Work of Christ: What Has Been Fulfilled & What Has Not?!?!

1st Night we will present 30 minute arguments against each others position and answer audience concerns.

2nd Night we will do a debate and have final statements.

(of course we can deal with all the details once you accept this basic proposal)

I firmly believe that we can do this in a manner that glorifies God, challenges both of us to look honestly at our positions, and answer concerns of those within your congregation. Also, since you have seemingly “attacked” those in your midst preaching against a false version of “Full Preterism”, it seems fair to challenge you regarding the true position of Full Preterism, especially regarding “The Resurrection of the Dead”.

I will be looking forward to your response.

In Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano
Blue Point Bibe Church

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