Date vs. Miano (Post-Debate Resources)

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On August 11th, 2020, Michael Miano, director of The Power of Preterism Network (www.powerofpreterism.com) debated Chris Date, apologist at ReThinkingHell.com. The subject of the debate was Chris Date affirming that “There Will Be A Future Physical Resurrection of the Dead”, to which Michael Miano offered the negative. This blog will provide not only the link to the debate, but also some of the follow-up resources that were provided.

You can watch that debate on YouTube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFLmRpxRhN4&t=2s

On the Sunday following the debate, Michael Miano preached a sermon titled, “Jesus Christ is the Resurrection” at The Blue Point Bible Church. You can view that sermon (which begins around the 17 minute mark) at the following link,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLCH8370ri4&t=24s

Also, Pastor Miano has also provided an online review of the debate which you can watch the following link as well,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K56-t9LwYo0&t=59s

Lastly, Chris Date participated in post-debate in interview with the Reformed Rookie podcast, which you can view at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGHW3kKUQcM

May these resources encourage your growth in the grace and knowledge of God, and urge you toward a continued ethic of seeking, searching, studying, and proving all things in accordance with the Scriptures.

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Notes from the 2018 Memphis Eschatology Conference

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Just a few weeks ago, many of us gathered at Raines Road Church of Christ in Memphis, Tennessee for the Memphis Eschatology Conference. Dr. William Bell, of All Things Fulfilled, was the host preacher. As always the fellowship and the lessons were amazing. I took many notes and have compiled them a bit here for your edification and prayerfully encouragement for you to dig into the lessons yourself. Enjoy.

Daniel Rogers – 1 Thessalonians

Mr. Rogers did a great job bringing us into the 1st letter to the Thessalonians which was penned around AD 51 – 52. I am familiar with Daniel’s teachings on the Second Exodus and was therefore thrilled to hear him explain how we should understand that as a framework. He frame the narrative as “out of darkness into light”. You can listen to more from Daniel Roger’s on the Second Exodus at the following link, https://labornotinvain.com/podcastarchives/topics/the-second-exodus/

In his presentation he said,  “You could say Exodus is the first book of the Bible, and Genesis is the prologue”. He marked out specific mentions in Isaiah 11:11 and 1 Corinthians 10:6 & 11 of the “second exodus”. I appreciated Mr. Roger’s highlighting details from the Law and the Prophets to better and Biblically inform our understanding of what is being detailed in 1st Thessalonians. He mentioned Exodus 19:5, Zechariah 14, Isaiah 40, and Malachi 3-4. Two other important things I recollect from Daniel’s presentation was his exhorting us to pay attention to the use of “personal pronouns” in the letter and his remarking that “jumping to 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 without developing the details of the letter usually highlights an agenda (rather than an honest understanding of the text).

All throughout his presentation, Mr. Rogers highlighted portions of texts from 1st Thessalonians and expounded upon their meaning. Looking at 1 Thessalonians 1:4 and God’s choosing and electing these people to turn from idols to the One True God (1 Thess. 1:9-10), to making note of “time-texts” that should be considered when we understand the fulfillment of these events (cf. 1 Thess. 2:17), the Church (Christ is us) being the “Apostolic hope” (cf. 1 Thess. 2:19-20), and how the “coming of the Lord in 1 Thess. 3:11-13 is the same as mentioned by Jesus Christ and noted in Matthew 16:27-28. Daniel’s mention of Tom Holland’s, Contours of Pauline Theology, is important when seeking to understand the corporate aspect of Pauline theology and eschatology. Lastly, Daniel made great points in noting the salvific, sanctification details noted in 1 Thess. 5:9-10 and how they correlate to baptism into Christ as mentioned in Romans chapter 6.

Listen to Daniel’s Roger’s full presentation at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVGlsY1ZuQ

Robert Buna – 2 Thessalonians

Mr. Robert Buna started out his presentation explaining that this group of Thessalonians receiving this letter around AD 52 were a group dealing with local Jewish persecution because of their conversion to Jesus Christ. This letter is reminding them of the soon coming relief as was promised by “word of the Lord”. Mr. Buna offered an excellent syllogism to make sense of the points he brought out.

The Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24) is events leading to the destruction of the Jerusalem in AD 70.

2nd Thessalonians is an interpretation of the Olivet Discourse (Matthew chapter 24)

Matthew chapter 24 and 2 Thessalonians are both speaking of events leading the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Basically, the Apostle Paul customizes the Matthew chapter 24 discourse to better suit the current perspective of the Thessalonians. Robert brought out so many great details from 2 Thessalonians that surely makes listening to his presentation of great importance. He detailed the audience of the Jews in Thessalonica as per the context of Scripture, marked out details regarding the “man of sin”, and challenged us to consider simple truths revealed through the context of 2 Thessalonians that prove Covenant Eschatology (ie., Full Preterism) as true.

Consider the following parallels:

Coming of the Lord (Matthew 24:3, 30 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1
Gathering of the Elect (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1)
Persecution of the Saints (Matthew 24:9 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
Presence of Angels (Matthew 24:31 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7)
The Dangers: Shaken in Mind (Matthew 24:10 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: Being Deceived (Matthew 24:4, 24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3)
The Dangers: Iniquity (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:7)
The Dangers: False Prophets (Matthew 24:11,24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:2)
The Dangers: False Signs & Wonders (Matthew 24:24 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:9)
The Dangers: Apostasia (Matthew 24:12 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
The Brightness (Matthew 24:27 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8)
Exhortation (Luke 21:36 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5, 11)
Coming of the Kingdom (Luke 21:32 cf. 2 Thessalonians 1:5)
The “one” in the Temple (Matthew 24:15 cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:4)

You can listen to Mr. Robert Buna’s full presentation on 2 Thessalonians at the Memphis Eschatology Conference at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qZ1fGzD8iI

Dr. William Bell – Galatians

Dr. Bell gave 2 lectures on Galatians and focused quite a bit on Jesus Christ’s resurrection from the dead (cf. Galatians 1:1; Acts 13:33; Romans 1:3-4). He detailed that there are two worlds in focus – flesh and Spirit, and the resurrection establishes Christ’s position. Dr. Bell detailed “the dead” being a concept far different than our modern concept (cf. Galatians 2:19; Romans 8:8-9), and ultimately how in ancient cultures, “if they had no children, they were considered dead”. He also detailed in length the concept of a last will and testament, and made note that in the time of the first century it was being revealed that the “OC Jews had an outdated will”.

You can listen to Dr. William Bell’s Lectures on Galatians at the following two links;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0njsLKs88lM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGjluWlLqH0

Holger Neubauer – Ephesians

Holger Neubauer delivered two presentations on Ephesians at the recent conference. In his first presentation he offered up powerful insights on textual criticism regarding the Greek text and the dating of New Testament writings. I have asked him to put together a writing that would further educate us all in those areas. Mr. Neubaur’s contending for the writing of Ephesians during his Casarean “house imprisonment” in AD 57-59 was interesting and runs against the often assumed writing during the Roman imprisonment in AD 60-62. Holger brought out attention to details in Acts chapter 21 and the reasoning for the Apostle Paul’s arrest and how that established historical context.

In his second presentation, Holger detailed the importance of paying attention to the pronouns – “we”, “you, “us”, them” – to the extent it will truly help highlight that the Apostle’s preached a law-free Gospel. Holger remarked, “It is my estimation, that this Jewish “us and we”, and the Gentile “you and them” have to be understood in order to see what the Apostle Paul is trying to accomplish when writing about these things”.  Holger also brought us over to Acts chapter 19 to establish come context for the details in Ephesus, he went into great detail about the “7 essentials of New Testament Christianity” as marked out in Eph. 4:4.

I know I have enjoyed and look forward to more learning from Holger Neubauer. He truly is a preacher theologian and usually expounds on more than a few things at once.  I encourage you to listen to his two lectures found at the following two provided links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoQKPo7jDNU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boP7w4ThYhg

Steve Baisden – Philippians

Mr. Steve Baisden framed his two lectures on the Book of Philippians as being to and about “A Well Established Congregation”. He launched right into marking out the eschatology in Philippians by making note of 2 Peter 3:10 and how that correlated to Philippians 1:6, 10, 19, 20; 2:14-16, 20; and 4:5. I thought it was great to hear Mr. Baisden make note of the fact that we must consider details in their own respective context, and also notice that all throughout Scripture there are different points being made in different contexts (that is why “proof-texting” is frowned upon).

In speaking about the eschatological resurrection being marked out in Philippians, and all throughout the New Testament, Steve said, “If Christ is in you, you have been resurrected!”. Steve marked out the Jewish context of Philippians (cf. Phil. 2:2; 3:3, 16; 4:9) and explained how this is important to take note of when “rightly dividing the Word of truth (cf. 2 Timothy 2:15)”. Pertaining to cross references, Mr. Baisden marked out Phil. 1:14-20 as fulfillment of Matthew 24:14, and Phil. 2:9-10 as fulfillment of Isaiah 45:23-24. In his first and second lectures, Mr. Baisden brought out many interesting details for further study such as the use of the Greek word “kampto”, the end of Hades (and corresponding thoughts), denominationalism, and the body of Moses (cf. Deuteronomy 31:29; 32:5; Romans 8:8-23; and 1 Corinthians 15: 51-56.

Listen to both of Steve Baisden’s lectures at the following links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz6lop7XoHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiuOxMBEzg0

Dr. Don Preston – Colossians

Dr. Don Preston framed his two lectures on Colossians in light of “The Passing of the Law of Moses: A Different View”. Dr. Preston explained that when we properly understand the “time-statements” in Scripture and the context of the passing of the Law, is a double-barrel shotgun with buckshot to futurism. Don also brought our attention to Israel’s Festal Calendar as reference in Colossians chapter 2. In his usual fashion, Dr. Preston detailed and demanded consistency from the Christian theological community regarding the Torah and it’s Telos (a focus Don has continued to emphasize). Don explained the correlation between Colossians 2:15, Matthew 5:16-18, and Leviticus 23. Dr. Preston also remarked that Israel’s feast days are the Rosetta Stone of eschatology, and showed how Jesus Christ used the vernacular of Jewish feast days to explain the impending end (cf. Matt. 23:39; 24:29-31, 36).

In preparation for lecture number 2, Dr. Preston had us read John chapters 7-8 and Revelation chapters 13 -15 and see the allusion to Sukkot. In his second presentation, he used Sukkot as the focus of a fulfilled eschatology (all jots and tittles must be fulfilled for the New Covenant to be a reality). Furthermore, Dr. Preston made it clear that NT eschatology “…builds its entire narrative around the 2nd exodus, the 2nd Moses, and the fulfillment of the feast days”. He made mention of a book, The Moses Connection by Bill Day.

It would surely be an enriching study to follow this review by marking out time to listen to Dr. Don Preston’s lectures on Colossians which are available at the following links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT5NOasF5lk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByt_t3kBaM

Kyle Elliot – 1 Timothy

Mr. Kyle Elliot offered up his lecture on 1 Timothy with a focus on sound doctrine. He also brought before us a chiastic literary structure found throughout the letter to Timothy marking out the “good fight”, “submission”, “leadership”, “service” and “apostasy”. The text takes place within the framework of the last days (cf. 1 Timothy 4:1-5). Kyle offered up a bulk of Old Testament and New Testament passages that should be considered to best understand the details brought forth in 1st Timothy. For example, Isaiah 2:2, 20-21; Daniel 2:44; 12:1; Joel 2:28-29, 30-31; Hebrews 12:22-24 (cf. Haggai 2:6, 21); Acts 2:38; 10:45; Luke 23:27-31 (cf. Revelation 6:16); Mark 13:14-19 (cf. Revelation 16:18); 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 (cf. Revelation 10:5-7; 11:15).

I loved that Mr. Kyle Elliot challenged us with sound doctrine and application to take on the “untraversed frontier before us”. Go ahead and listen to his lecture at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2rWRsGeKgs

John Holt – 2 Timothy  

Mr. John Holt framed his lecture on 2nd Timothy as “The Crown of Righteousness: Enduring the Last Days”. Three points that Mr. Holt marked out were 1.) The Prize/ The Reward – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8 cf. Hebrews 9:28; James 1:12). 2.) The Parousia/ Coming – 2 Timothy 4:1, 8; 1 Peter 5:4; Revelation 21:1; Matthew 16:27-28; Luke 21:31; Matthew 10:21-23. 3.) The Sending of the Spirit – John 16:5-7.

Mr. Holt highlighted the wisdom in 2 Timothy 2:10, “…that they may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory”. This would happen at the time of the end (cf. 2 Timothy 3:1-5; Acts 2:16—21 (cf. Joel 2:28), and Matthew 24:29-31.

Listen to Mr. Holt’s entire presentation at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYQTqSzCvns

 

Submitted by Michael Miano
c/o The Power of Preterism Network

Now What? The Next “World Event”

Written by Mr. Ancil McBarnett 

Those of us who hold to an AD 70 view where we acknowledged the Old Covenant ended, and the New Covenant and the ever increasing Kingdom is here, the inevitable question is now what?

We all know the futility of looking at world events and identifying every crisis as a “sign” that the end is near.

There is NO end time event happening now.

What God is interested in, is all the nations of the world actively becoming and experiencing the Kingdom or our God. And how that takes place is not through whether Syria or North Korea is an end time apocalyptic event.

What God is more interested in, is a world event of people all over the globe who are truly Kingdom, so that when nations ask us “Show us your ways”, we have been living it.

We are supposed to be the mountain of the Lord’s House where nations ask “show us your ways.”

Right now our “Christian” ways are too embarrassing and unintelligent to even show, much less requested by others.

Nations don’t want to know about your prophetic line and how people are slain by the spirit.

Nations would be asking to “show us your ways”, not “show us your theology or political ideology”.

Nations are interested in systems, and a systemic approach to life, for example:

– how are you able to successfully manage life,
– how are you, the church able to bring people together for a common goal, without coercion, taxation,
– how did you manage to heal people,
– eradicate corruption,
– bring peace,
– have marriages that last,
– suffer through crisis but yet be mature,
– bring up children that do not collapse,
– love one another across geographical boundaries,
– submit to one another,
– value the other better than yourself….

That is the world event, God is only interested in.

How can the Body of Christ implement systems and training, to bring up generation after generation of stellar human beings, extremely productive in society, and who live out Kingdom and His righteousness and impact redemptively this society. Now that is Christ.

That is the impact of Christ and His Kingdom.

That’s the visible influence, impact, exertion of the Kingdom on these lives of men and systems of this earth.

That is the “world event” we should be interested in, happening every day in people’s lives as they become more mature.

That is the “world event” we should be interested in, creating systems as the Body of Christ so that when a school has a potential next shooter on their hands, they can turn to us, to restore such a human, because we have a system that works.

That is what I am interested in, more than whether North Korea begins world war 3

And that is New Covenant life, fueled by the finished work of Christ.

April 2018 – Preterist Conferences

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Well, glory to God! This past weekend (April 20-22) there were 2 Preterist conferences happening at the same time. The Berean Bible Church led by Pastor David Curtis had their usual annual conference (which dvd/mp3 ordering will begin for soon). Many attend and speak of the edification that comes from BBC. Visit their website to get more information, http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

However, I am writing this blog to speak about the Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar. I am just now realizing that there was a debate between well-known Preterist leader Dr. John Noe and Church of Christ preacher Steve Baisden (who is also a Preterist). I know I am looking forward to checking that out. Also, they had a great line up of speakers – Mr. Scott Klaft, Mr. Holger Neubauer, Mr. Roy Runyon, and Mr. Charles Parsley. Admittedly, I have only read a few things by these names, however they seem to be on the frontline of the reformation happening not only in the Churches of Christ, but even within the larger Christian body. As I said at the beginning, glory to God! The following link has details about the speakers and the conference, http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

I am looking to having an interview with the lead preacher, John Watson, from Westside Church of Christ (where this conference happened) in weeks to come. Matter of fact, tune in to the Hairy Ticks Variety Show on TFC Radio (www.tfcradio.org) on Tuesday, May 1st and you will get to hear that interview.

Also, in the meantime, I’d like to encourage you to view the resources that have been put out from this conference. I know I will be diving in to the details throughout this week. The following link is to the YouTube page where you can view the speakers for yourself, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEmsXxNOI45GFZIGmfA1kog

May we continue to see God glorified as we study and discern His Truth!

In Service to Christ Jesus,

Michael Miano
Pastor, Blue Point Bible Church
Director, The Power of Preterism Network

Crossroads Examined: Review of BPBC’s Conference

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I shared all about the conference earlier today on this weeks broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show. Here is a link to that show, https://www.spreaker.com/user/10014082/3-27-2018

I figured I would also write out some pertinent highlights from the Examining Crossroads: Biblical Controversies Conference that happened this past weekend (March 23-25, 2018) at The Blue Point Bible Church. Many praised God that this 5th annual Bible conference was the best one we have had yet at BPBC. Glory to God!

FUTURE STUDIES & TOPICS

Mr. Glenn Hill will be coming out with a book in the near future, Christianity’s Great Deception (detailing the doctrine of hell). Also, Mr. David King has since made a Facebook page, group, and website by the title “Hell Is Not Real”. (Check out www.hellisnotreal.com)

I will continue to bring forth details about “Conceptual Salvation” and “Soma Salvation”, both of which I spoke about at the conference. Keep your eyes tuned for more blogs at www.mianogonewild.wordpress.com

Mr. Adam Maarschalk has brought forth some challenging ideas regarding a 1000 year millennium between the two great revolts (63-73 AD & 132 – 135 AD). Keep an eye on his blog (www.adammaarschalk.com) and I look forward to having him as a guest soon on the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Pastor Steve Schilling highlighted the necessity of studies of atonement and the correlation of “pitch” in the Hebrew (the same word) and the significance, as well as distinction of understanding Jesus Christ as our propitiation (cf. 1 John 2:2).

Mr. Ancil McBarnett highlighted a great Biblical history of “Heaven and Earth”. His presentation challenged us to develop a track record of “light” and “darkness” as found through the Biblical narrative. Also, Ancil recommended reading Isaiah chapters 51-65 in an attempt to better understand the prophetic realities of “Heaven and Earth”. I look forward to a transcript of his presentation and to further engage his thoughts on an upcoming broadcast of the Hairy Ticks Variety Show.

Dr. Cindye Coates offered up great insights regarding “God’s government” and how we must walk in a manner of; 1. Being fruitful; 2. Increasing and multiplying; 3. Having dominion; 4. Subduing all things; and 5. Replenishing things. I look forward to further dialogue with Dr. Cindye Coates on an upcoming episode of HTVS as well.

 

#TeamPRETERIST – UPCOMING PRETERIST CONFERENCES

Indianapolis Eschatology Seminar – April 20-21
Westside Church of Christ/ Contact – John Watson http://westsidecoc.org/jm/index.php/events/17-indianapolis-eschatology-seminar

How Shall We Then Live – April 20-22
Berean Bible Church, Virginia Beach/ Contact – Pastor David Curtis http://www.bereanbiblechurch.org/conference/

Springville Lecture: The Time of the End – May 4-6
Springville Church of Christ, California/ Contact – Brent Bischel
* No web link at this time

Creationfest Northeast(Music Festival/ Preterists Meet-up) – June 27-30
Agape Farms, Pennsylvania
https://creationfest.com/ne/

Preterist Pilgrim Weekend – July 12-14
Preterist Research Institute, Ardmore, Oklahoma/ Contact – Don Preston http://www.bibleprophecy.com/events-2/annual-ppw/

Texas – The Big Texas Conference – September 21-23
Kerrville, Texas/ Contact – TJ Smith http://bigtex2018.info/

 

I surely hope to see and/or meet you at one of these conferences in the very near future. Not only that, but I pray that through this blog, I have furthered encouraged your diligent studies and maybe provided you with some resources.

Blessings in Christ,
Pastor Michael Miano The Blue Point Bible Church The Power of Preterism Network

Examining Crossroads: Biblical Controversies Conference

Blue Point Conference 2018

Friday, March 23rd, 2018 – “So Great A Salvation”
7:00 – 7:15 – Introduction to Examining Crossroads (Pastor Michael Miano)
7:10 – 7:15 – Special Music by Mrs. Meredith Piniella
7:15 – 8:00 – Mr. Glenn Hill
8:00 – 8:20 – Herman & Nudix
8:20 – 8:35 – 15 minute break
8:35 – 9:15 – Pastor Michael Miano
Q & A

Saturday, March 24th, 2018 – “Complex Concepts”
11am – 11:15 – Good morning & Welcome/ explain “Complex Concepts”
11:15 – 12:00 – Adam Maarschalk
12:00 – 12:30 – Pastor Steve Schilling
12:30 – 12:45pm – 15 minute break
12:45 -1pm – Herman & Nudix
1pm – 1:45pm – Pastor Michael Miano
1:45 – 2:30 – Ancil McBarnett
2:30 – 3pm – Deacon Edward Silsbe
Q & A

7PM – 7:10 – Welcome & Announcements
7:10 – 7:15 – Special Music
7:15 – 7:30 – Herman & Nudix
7:30 – 8:15pm – Dr. Cindye Coates
8:15 – 8:30pm – 15 Minute break
8:30 – 9:00pm – Pastor Steve Schilling
Q & A

Sunday, March 25th – “Edify the Body”
Adult Sunday School – Discussion Group (9am-10am)
Special Music & Sermon (10:30 – 11:45am)
The Efficacy of the Church Roundtable (1:30 -3:30pm)

 

 

“World” Study

Due to the lack of serious study within the Christian Church, many false and misunderstood teachings have crept in. Not only do many popular teachings lack Biblical and historical context, they are also propounded by failing to properly understand the phrases and words that have been translated into English. In this study we will examine some Greek words to get a bit more clarity.

The Greek words that are translated “world” in the English Bible are: oikoumene, kosmos, ge, and aion. For the sake of this study, we will focus on oikumene and aion, namely because they are the 2 words that speak of things that were about to come (the oikoumene to come (Hebrews 2:5) and the aion to come (Hebrews 6:5)”.
The term “oikumene” seems to be best understood as referring to the surrounding environment, or what some would refer to as economy (order of things). This is used in the following places in Scripture: Matthew 24:14; Luke 2:1; Luke 4:5; Luke 21:26; Acts 11:28; Acts 17:6; Acts 19:27; Acts 24:5; Romans 10:18; Hebrews 1:6; Hebrews 2:5; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 12:9; and Revelation 16:14.

Honest and careful study, “rightly dividing the Word of Truth (2 Timothy 2:15)”, would lead us to understand the world commonly translated world from the Greek oikumene is not speaking about the whole planet. Therefore, this causes a challenge to what many are expecting to happen throughout the whole planet – BECAUSE THE WORD DOESN’T MEAN THAT!!!

Peter Leithart, a NT scholar, made a good point in remarking, “In many passages of the New Testament, oikumene refers to the Greco-Roman imperial world. More theologically, it refers to the arrangement of Israel and Gentiles that God formed during and after the exile”.

The term “aion” references a denoted period of time. The Jews understood 2 ages – the present evil age and the age to come, both periods of time marked out by the systems being used (Old Covenant- New Covenant). This is used in the following places in Scripture: Matthew 12:32; Matthew 13:22, 39, 40, 49; Matthew 24:3; Matthew 28:20; Mark 4:19; Mark 10:30; Luke 1:70; Luke 16:8; Luke 18:30; Luke 20:34-35; Acts 15:8; Romans 12:2; 1 Corinthians 1:20; 1 Corinthians 2:6-8; 1 Corinthians 3:18; 1 Corinthians 10:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Galatians 1:4; Ephesians 1:21; Ephesians 2:2, 7; Ephesians 3:9; Ephesians 6:12; Colossians 1:26; 1 Timothy 6:17; 2 Timothy 4:10; Hebrews 1:2; Hebrews 6:5; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 11:3.

Reading the “end of the age” in line with what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:3 helps clarify what was being referred to as the “end times”. When we read these words consistently and appropriately we are able to let go of false teachings and hopes that misapply what was being detailed throughout the Scriptures. Instead of the 1st century disciples hoping for an end to the planet, we note they were hoping for an end of the oikoumene and the aion, which surely occurred after the destruction of the Temple and the city of Jerusalem during the Roman-Jewish War of AD 70.

Lastly, many continue and propound confusion by asserting that before the end comes, the gospel must be preached to the entire “world”, however they fail to understand how the words for “world” are used. The following link will bring you to a chart that shows the different uses of words that applied to the “Great Commission”, as well as other thoughts to further your understanding:
http://livingthequestion.org/signs/

Blessings in Christ Jesus,
Pastor Michael Miano
The Blue Point Bible Church

An Introduction to and Praise of the Corporate Body View (CBV)

Establishing Himself as the fulfillment of all that was hoped for, Jesus Christ said:

“I am the Resurrection and the Life: he that believes in Me, though he were dead, yet he shall live: and whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this (John 11:25)”.

The Christian believes Jesus Christ to be the fulfillment of all that Israel longed for. The Apostle Paul explained the “hope of resurrection” best when he testified before governor Felix in Acts chapter 24:14-15:

“But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and the Prophets: having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked”.

When we go back to the beginning of the Biblical story we read that Adam suffered death because of disobedience and this “death” was manifested as his being cut off from the garden of Eden and accessing the Tree of Life (essentially the true life manifested in the presence of God), as well as a return to dust. This “death” effected him while he was alive, as well as after he biologically died. His progeny, Israel, began to have a hope for resurrection after they “like Adam transgressed the covenant (cf. Hosea 6:7)”. The Law of Moses was given to Israel as an “atonement” (a covering that provided life when they walked in obedience – cf. Deuteronomy 30:15). However, instead of walking in obedience, Israel walked in disobedience and reaped death. Like the death of Adam, this death effected Israel while they were alive, as well as after biological death. This death was a covenant reality for all of Israel as they failed to walk in obedience to the Law of Moses, however the Law and the Prophets hoped for the “resurrection of the dead”.

“The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the Law (1 Corinthians 15:56)”

When we begin to examine the “hope of Israel” otherwise known as the “resurrection of the dead” through Scripture we arrive at an understanding of the corporate “bodily hope”. Understanding the focal point of this “bodily hope” as a “corporate reality” which establishes eternal life for the dead and the living, is referred to as the Corporate Body View (Salvation in the Body of Christ). This view is in contrast to what is often referred to as the IBV (Individual Body View), which demands that the doctrine of the “resurrection of the dead” involves an individual body that the saints receive – an Individual Body at Death (IBD). CBV advocates demonstrate that the “resurrection passages” found throughout the Bible are speaking about the “change” (alasso in the Greek) of the living saints and the making stand upright (apantesis in the Greek) of the “dead ones” into one immortal “corporate body” (the glorified Body of Christ). CBV advocates also assert that none of the “resurrection passages” found throughout Scripture, nor the “hope of Israel” otherwise known as the doctrine of the “resurrection of the dead”, pertain to any kind of individual body that the saints received or will receive. This is simply a false notion regarding the goal of eschatology that has been passed on throughout Church History, and is built upon faulty presuppositions as well as assumptions (Futurism, the Immortality of the Soul, the Resurrection of the Flesh, to name a few).

“He is the Head of the Body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything (Colossians 1:18)”.

A simple reading through the context of the Apostles Paul’s hope and his writings, say for example reading through the Book of Romans, will show that the “bodily hope” is detailing the death to one body and “newness of life” found in another. This is the Body of which Christ is the Head. It is important to note how Israel under the Law of Moses was understood to be a corporate people, and the Greeks are well known for their great “assemblies” or “bodies” (soma in the Greek) which they boasted in regards to. It was dying to these assemblies/bodies of identification and the being raised into the Body of Christ which would have been readily understood by people inclusively focused as the original audience was. This is what much of the “bodily talk” in the New Testament pertains to. This is a concept that a Hellenized spirituality (a spirituality based upon otherworldly notions that come from the imaginations of men as seen and passed on through Greco-Roman culture), or a 21st century mindset is not necessarily predisposed to.

Also, a Biblical consistency is revealed when we understand the narrative and the context of the “hope of Israel”. The death being defeated through Jesus Christ and the life being offered as represented through baptism begins to make sense. The resurrection of which Colossians 1:8 says that which is first in surely couldn’t be physical biological resurrection since we see this happen many times throughout the Scriptures. Also, as we study the Law and the Prophets, we see how unnecessary discussion about individual realities becomes and instead we develop the a prophetic imagination and get brought into the corporate reality fulfilled through Jesus Christ.

As we continue to see reformation happen within the Body of Christ, especially pertaining to eschatological details (which the “resurrection of the dead” is involved with), we need to move away from these strange notions of and focuses on individual realities, and instead cling to what we might call “resurrection realities”. Consider two texts that pointed to the hope of resurrection and what the outcome would be:

“Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. Those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever (Daniel 12:2-3)”.

“And the Lord God will save them in that day as the flock of His people; for they are as the stones of a crown, sparkling in His land. For what comeliness and beauty will be theirs! Grain will make the young men flourish, and new wine the virgins (Zechariah 9:16-17)”.

The “resurrection of the dead” is the ultimate conclusion of fulfilled Bible prophecy. The fulfillment of the every joy and tittle of the Law and the Prophets it all that the prophets longed and hoped for. In and through that fulfillment the Mystery of the Ages would be revealed The living and the dead would and were raised into a new “bodily experience” when the Messiah fulfilled all that was necessary for the restitution of all things. The Apostle Paul detailed the overcoming of the covenantal death, which was lamented through the Prophets in this manner:

“But when this perishable will have put on the the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting”.

Praise God for the Corporate Body Resurrection! The Glorified Immortal Body of Christ where Resurrection and Life is found.

 

 

MORE ARTICLES OF PASTOR MICHAEL MIANO’S ON THE CBV VIEW:

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/resurrection-of-the-dead-ones/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/1-corinthians-15-summaries/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/the-effect-of-a-fulfilled-corporate-gospel/

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/the-hope-of-israel-transition-part-3/

SHARED DISCUSSION: 4th Sunday Discussion Group Details at BPBC

At the Blue Point Bible Church (www.bluepointbiblechurch.org), we strive toward ‘Making Known the Manifold Wisdom of God, in Word and in Deed’. In accordance with, I (Pastor Michael Miano) have allowed for what we call a 4th Sunday Discussion Group, a time when people in our congregation can ask some questions.

In this blog, I want to share the details that we discussed this Sunday, and prayerfully provide both clarity, as well as encouragement for you to study further.

In my sermon on Sunday, I detailed the possibility of Jesus ben Ananus being a demonstration of the “two witnesses” found in Revelation chapter 11. In our discussion group, it was brought up that Jesus ben Ananus could very well be a “type of Christ”. I shared that the commentator, Daniel Morais, from whom I borrowed the concept does detail that in his commentary. Surely something we can study out. Here is the link to that commentary:

http://revelationrevolution.org/revelation-11-a-preterist-commentary-who-are-the-two-witnesses/

Also, here is the podcasted sermon of what I preached this Sunday:

http://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/318731-the-apocalyptic-details-of-revelation-chapters-11-12

In our group discussion we also talked about the ‘mystery of God’ as revealed through the prophets, more specifically as mentioned in 1 Peter chapter 1. Pastor Miano detailed that the New Covenant and all that we have in and through Jesus Christ is the mystery itself- something that a proper reading through Ephesians chapter 1-3, as well as Romans chapters 8-15 should reveal.

Our conversation then turned toward ‘evangelism’, ‘the gospel’, as well as how God’s sovereignty plays a part in all of that. If God knows all, and all things happen in accordance with His will- why pray? Why evangelize? I was glad to answer questions to the best of my ability in these regards, as well as exhort the saints to continue to study. Pastor John Piper’s messages and websites, as well as Monergism.com have been great resources in these regards. For example here is a link, http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-sovereignty-of-god-and-prayer

I pray that I was able to make it clear that God is honored through our attempts at ‘prayer’ and ‘evangelism’ even if it doesn’t all make sense to us, however His Word commands it, and therefore we “walk worthy” by offering it. Surely where we can all agree is that God is always pleased when we do those things which He asks.

As we concluded our discussion we excitedly talked about “making known the Gospel”. How can we do that? What is a simple expression of the Gospel that is faithful to the story from Genesis to Revelation?

I look forward to producing a video in the next couple days that will be made available through Youtube on how we can best preach what I refer to as the “Fulfilled Gospel” in less than 6 minutes, and not offer a ‘cut & paste Gospel’, but rather a presentation that is true to the Biblical text and expresses the full gospel story from creation to consummation. A simple way I will explain it here is this:

As with everything, we must rightly define the PROBLEM – the Bible starts with a creation story wherein prior to God “acting” the earth was “formless and void”. Scholars have pointed our this is equivalent to saying ‘useless’ akin to a ‘desert wasteland’. How many peoples lives to do you know who can be described in that manner?

That being noted we move to the SOLUTION. The whole Biblical Narrative is about the failure of Old Covenant Israel to walk in line with the ‘things of God’ (a longer drawn out story very similar to the ‘Garden of Eden’). Simply put, in order for man to live a life that glorifies God which in turn offers blessings, and as Jesus Christ put it Himself “life to the full” (see, John 10:10), man needs a savior. Not a faulty solution- as our culture offers so many “faulty solutions”, we know that Jesus Christ- His life, His death, His sacrifice, His teachings all offer “life to the full” and that is what we offer as we seek to ehort the nations to “know and practice” the teachings of Jesus (see, Matthew chapter 7 verses 7 through 27).

And finally, once we make clear the PROBLEM, as well as the ‘proposed SOLUTION’, we then want to “close the deal”, which in contrast to a “hasty Gospel’ which is preached through the Sinner’s Prayer and a ‘ticket to heaven’, we offer DISCIPLESHIP. As one of my favorite writers notes, “For the disciple of Jesus, discipleship is not the first step toward a promising career. Discipleship is the fulfillment of your life long destiny”. The people around us want “life to the full”, some know it, some don’t. What we offer through “Jesus Christ” is the opportunity to find and live in the reality of a “fulfilling life” which is only found by way of the true knowledge of God (see, 2 Peter chapter 1).

Also, I believe the two writings that I have made available over the last two days may also be helpful to you.

Here is an article on the verses that point to “every knee bowing to Jesus”, which I wrote for TFC Magazine:

http://www.tfcmag.com/article-home.php?id=252&p=&search=#ontitle

And here is a blog on “Discipleship” that I posted yesterday:

https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2015/10/28/rendering-you-neither-useless-nor-unfruitful-in-the-knowledge-of-god-make-disciples/

In His Service,

Pastor Michael Miano

Director, The Power of Preterism Network

BOOK REVIEW: Final Decade Before the End by Mr. Ed Stevens

In the Christian circles that I navigate Mr. Ed Stevens is known as one of the best resources for Jewish and Christian history. This book, Final Decade Before the End, is A MUST READ for anyone serious about understanding ‘Jewish and Christian history just before the Jewish Revolt’. He really delivered on his promise to offer a ‘historical reconstruction’ help “form a comprehensive understanding of what was really happening to Christianity during that final decade just before the end.”

At the Blue Point Bible Church, where I serve as pastor, we have been going through the “Biblical Narrative” from Genesis to Revelation since February 2015. Mr. Stevens book has been the ‘resource above resources’ for my study into the culture and time of the New Testament writings.

Not only does he provide a basic timetable for the writing and courier activity of the New Testament writings, he also provides important chronological details during that time. Also noteworthy for sure is his constant use of not just quotes, but entire passages from early, almost ancient historians such as Josephus, Tacitus, Seneca, Suetonius, among others.

I write this as I have just finished reading his book this afternoon – I took time using it as a reference tool for the past 3 months. However, now that we have embarked upon understanding the ‘Book of Revelation’ in our congregation, I felt it necessary to read through the whole book to get the ‘juicy details’ concerning the history of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish war. ‘;

Regarding the ‘history of the end’, Mr. Stevens delivers a writing with powerful evidence in first century Bible prophecy fulfillment, surely details you want to have as we continue bringing forth the truth of Full Preterism. I cannot say it enough, this is A MUST HAVE RESOURCE!

All of that said, there are surely areas I found myself disagreeing with Mr. Stevens, specifically his explanation of why the historic church did not document nor provide evidence of the experiences of the ‘time of the end’ – ie., the rapture theory. Also, as I examined the charts Mr. Stevens provides regarding the ‘expectations of the saints’, I found myself disagreeing with his reference to the hope of individual bodies at death and the nature of that fulfillment in regards to the ‘resurrection of the dead’. I look forward to interacting with these details in the near future.

Again, I note the disagreement just to be honest in my review, however take those areas out (to be agreeable with my position) or keep them it, the book is still amazing! I will continue to recommend the resources of Mr. Stevens- especially, as we encourage others to understand the historic events of the Neronian persecution, as well as the Roman-Jewish War.

“We are devoted to chasing after the Biblical and Historical Truth, wherever it leads, and whatever it takes. This book was written for truth chasers like you”. – Ed Stevens

Order your copy at the following link:http://www.preterist.org/products/final-decade-before-the-end-print-edition

In Christ’s Name,

Michael Miano

P.S. – Mr. Stevens book also helped me solidify my position on the Millennium noting the events prior to A.D. 64, and what would follow after with the Neronian persecution. This was a big deal to me and I feel forever indebted to him for that!