Reviewing the Revelation Revealed Bible Conference (Part 2)

You can read part 1 of this review at the following link, https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/reviewing-the-revelation-revealed-bible-conference-part-1/

Mr. Mert Melfa our video guy, put together all the videos from the Conference and emailed a link to those who he had on an email list. I wanted to provide the link again and in this public blog, so here it is – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1h2WwSa-8dMGmcP7qTKQ3pACwxgpvzBb

I pray that each of you have been blessed and edified by the videos that have been put out. I look forward to uploading the videos to The Power of Preterism Network’s page, where you can access the video footage for each year’s Annual Conference at BPBC. Here is a link to that page, http://www.powerofpreterism.com/preterism-.html

This year we had some returning speakers and we had some new ones.

Mr. Adam Maarschalk, of www.AdamMaarschalk.com, spoke to us about the Beast of Revelation. Adam has got to be one of the most studious and provider of some of the best and well-thought out blogs within the “preterist movement”. Each year he provides an awesome outline for his speaking presenations, which he provided on his website at the following link, https://adammaarschalk.com/2017/04/09/who-was-the-beast-five-clues-long-island-conference-presentation/

Ed Silsbe, a deacon at The Blue Point Bible Church, shared a detailed short story challenging us in regards to compassion. Utilizing a write up called “The Self Improvement of Salvatore Ross”

Deacon Ed Silsbe always highlights a good story and hits home with a message. And if Mr. Silsb’e story wasn’t enough to get us thinking, we had Herman, of Herman & Nudix challenge us with a comedic skit regarding “What Were They Thinking?”.

Dr. Don K. Preston, of the Preterist Research Institute, offered a stirring and evangelistic message through a video presentation. And Pastor Steve Schilling, who also serves at The Blue Point Bible Church, preached the Gospel of the Kingdom at the Sunday “Worship Service”.

Two speakers who were new to our conference were Mr. Daniel Morais of www.RevelationRevolution.org, and Mr. William Vincent. Mr. Daniel Morais gave a 30 minute lecture regarding “the parousia of Christ” and has continually been a go to resource regarding the details found in Scripture, especially in regards to the Book of Revelation. And Mr. William Vincent offered an honest and humble approach to looking at worship and the role of the Body of Christ as seen in and through the Book of Revelation.

Again listen to all of these and more at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1h2WwSa-8dMGmcP7qTKQ3pACwxgpvzBb

I look forward to offering a couple more reviews as we look at the notes taken and shared from some others guests who attended the conference, as well as some critical review of the debate between myself and Pastor Earl Wallace, of Liberty Christian Fellowship.

In Service to Him,

Pastor Michael Miano

Sam, Stop Talking…: A Review of the Smackdown on RR

RR = Reviewing Revelation podcast w/ Travis Finley

I want to start this review of a podcast I recently listened to by offering up some context. I debated Mr. Sam Frost in February 2013. Mr. Frost left the “Full Preterist view” as I came into it back in 2012. Sam Frost among others has been vicious in attitude and blatantly rude toward Full Preterism since he left. I must say, I respect Sam Frost’s work when he was a Full Preterist and his willingness to continue to have these discussions with Full Preterists (being one of the few willing Futurists who are willing to engage in controversial discussion on such crucial issues). The resources and edification he has provided in favor of the Preterist view cannot be denied. He published a hardly making sense book on why he left Full Preterism by the title “Why I Left Full Preterism”. You purchase it at the following link, https://store.americanvision.org/products/why-i-left-full-preterism

It was all of that which precipitated by debating him in 2013. You can watch that debate on Youtube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4JEGAsumE

Ever since that debate and all the ad hom attacks that were made following it, I have been persistent in telling leaders and teachers to not give Sam Frost any attention. He has been proven wrong and silly not only in the debate we had, but his reasoning for leaving Full Preterism behind. However, I must say…Mr. Finley did an amazing job exposing the inconsistencies of “Partial Preterism” as well as highlighted the illogical mind of Sam Frost.

Travis Finley highlighted some of what he referred to as “hermeneutical hiccups”, namely detailing how problematic it is to take Matthew chapter 24 and agree about the destruction of Jerusalem being a focal point (obviously if you read Matthew 24:3 as well as Luke 19:41-44) and then switch the point and make it about the end of the world. Sam Frost tried to assert that verse 36 diverges and it becomes about the end of the world. Yikes! All of this just further serves to demonstrate as Mr. Finley rightly noted, “a pre-commitment to futurism”. Talk about hermeneutical gymnastics!

After listening to Travis and Sam talk about the “perpescuity of Scripture”, I was urged to rethink that concept I haven’t heard in quite some time. Here is a link to the Theopedia defintion, http://www.theopedia.com/clarity-of-scripture

Sam Frost went on quite a few rants, however in one specific one he began to detail all the different 2nd Temple eschatologies that had developed within the culture that Jesus Christ came to. I absolutely loved Travis’ “I don’t give a hoot” response. Sam Frost clearly doesn’t care how silly it sounds to say the disciples didn’t understand the details being written to them however we do (which is an argument he usually tries to twist and use against Full Preterists). Here is an example. When Sam accuses Full Preterists of having an understanding that the original audience would not have had this is usually based on his ignorance of the topic and how it was understood in this context (no worries this can be alleviated by a little bit of historical and cultural context of details found in Scripture). However when Sam is cornered on contradictions within his view he asserts that there is a “sophisticated world of eschatology” that even the Apostles did not understand. Whoa!

The discussion that Travis and Sam had about “heaven and earth” was very telling. I must acknowledge Travis’ calm demeanor and clear detailing during the show (in obvious contrast to Mr. Frost’s aggressiveness). Even those listening with me referred to Mr. Finley as the “calm guy” and recognized the need to pray for Mr. Frost. Also, Sam Frost clearly doesn’t understand poetic language. Travis did great in the discussion regarding poetic language and the use of Psalm 102. Sam went on a rant about “poetic bones” which was very revealing in regards to his reading of Biblical literature. Boy oh boy has he intellectually reverted.

The final discussion on the “death of Adam” surely was silly. Ultimately it led to a usual confusion and immediate attack that happens when people are told to take a step back and look at Scripture through the proper historical and cultural context, and then find your place in the narrative. Not surprising of 21st century Bible teachers who want to cling to “traditional teachings seemingly be as indivividualist ego-eccentric as the rest of the culture. Thus Mr. Frost’s rant about people dying, suffering, and those stuck in depravity.

I loved the broadcast and was inspired to write a quick review. Here is the link to the podcast, https://www.spreaker.com/user/rtb4tftx/episode-54-smackdown-rr-style-baby

Thanks Travis! Your a blessing to the Body!

Blessings in Christ Jesus,

Pastor Michael Miano

“Pushing Preterism”

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Blessings.
I published an interactive Facebook LIVE video last night while cooking my “late night snack” detailing some of the things I will mention in this note. 
Namely what I want to speak about is the necessity of the reformation that Preterism is having on and within the Christian Church. Praise God! As more and more Believers walk worthy of 2 Timothy 2:15, and ministers walk worthy of Titus 1:9, the truth of how Jesus Christ fulfilled everything He said He would right on time is spreading. That is what we are referring to as the “preterist reformation”. Thus bringing about the glorious reality of living under fully consummated fulfilled in the new age (Biblically referred to as the “age to come”).
Why is this so necessary? Prayerfully we are in agreement that God desires us to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth (John 4:24), and that the goal of our Christian lives is to “grow in the grace and knowledge of God” (cf. ) knowing that He has given us everything that pertains to life and Godliness. The view of “Futurism” (the belief that Jesus has yet to come to fulfill all that He promised He would) has stunted the growth and effect of the Church on the world. I firmly believe God brings us through these “reformations” (thus noting the semper reformanda (Latin for “ever reforming”) nature of the Christian Church, and thus Believers) to challenge us to grow and to see how He is working in and through us.
Allow me to highlight a conversation I had yesterday on Facebook to further express what I am saying. A Christian leader commented on a praise that another Christian leader was giving in regards to the reforms “fulfilled covenant eschatology” is having in the Church. This is some of what he said:
“…as of right now I am not 100% on what my view on eschatology is nor do I believe it to be at the forefront of Believer’s minds on any every day basis in their relationship with God”.
My response what that it sure seemed as though “eschatology” (end times views) were are the forefront of Believer’s minds everyday in Scripture and I lamented what many have done to the Gospel message. I could go on and on about how important the “last days” were to Believer’s in Scripture, however for brevity sake I will have us consider 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6:
“Now as to the times and epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober”.
The foundation of the Christian faith is built upon that first century generation to whom Christ was revealed being “alert and sober”. They heeded the message of Jesus Christ and knew the times. Specifically they knew that the Jews who felt they had “peace and safety” in their hypocritical “self-righteous” religion were coming under God’s judgement (ie., a coming of the Lord meaning war and invasion). That day would not overtake the Believer’s because they would know and listen to the wisdom given to them by Jesus Christ (cf. Matthew 24; Luke 21, etc.).
After my reply, the Christian leader whom had originally said that “eschatology” didn’t seem all that important responded:
“…and as far as it being in the forefront ok…if your concentration in your everyday life is pushing preterism I think it is a problem…It might of been spoken about often and at the forefront but not most important for sure..”.
I wouldn’t be so sure, sir. If the “end times” were at the forefront of Believer’s minds in Scripture we have 1 or 2 options; either we are still living in those last days they were experiencing and we need to be as diligent, dare I say “alert and sober” as they were, or we are living past those days in what they pointed to. Either way our concentration in everyday life, especially in regards to our in spirit and in truth worship of God, needs to be on what God has and is doing. I firmly believe God is working in and through the “preterist movement” to highlight these things, thus I believe the most important thing we should be doing is “pushing preterism”. Ultimately because this is being consistent and taking our stand upon His Word and walking in line with His Spirit in our day and age.
“The role of a minister is this; to encourage the saints in sound doctrine and rebuke those who oppose it (Titus 1:9)”.
PS – I have personally and publically debated Futurism/ Preterism for the past 5 years and while I have seen so much sincerity in searching the Scriptures, I have also seen an abundance of ignorance and dishonesty from Christian leaders. Not to mention the confusion that is being given to the masses. I will share a couple debates I have had below, noting that the first link is to a debate done a bit more than a week ago. Take note of Futurist confusion!