Last week I had the privilege of sharing some of my thoughts regarding Caleb Graham’s recent debate with Mike Holloway regarding the ‘resurrection of the dead’. You can listen to that short review at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=723JxB0TbMc
In that review I shared thoughts regarding the “hope of Israel” through Hebraic perspective, especially as made known through the Law and the Prophets (i.e., the Old Testament). I mentioned the importance of understanding the Old Testament narrative to gain insight regarding what the New Testament writers are pointing back to, especially pertaining to what we might understand the ‘resurrection of the dead’ to be (cf. Hosea 6:2; Hosea 13:14; Isaiah 25:8 – all of which the Apostle Paul quotes from). I mentioned a bit about “dust” and “corruption” as found throughout the Biblical narrative as well. In the debate, Caleb mentioned my resources, which I greatly appreciated. As pertaining to the topic of ‘dust’, I recommend reading and studying through my blog, ‘Man of Dust’, which can be found at then following link, https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/man-of-dust-genesis-ancient-near-eastern-origins/
In that blog, I assert, “‘Dust’ as used through Scripture and historical context also carries the thought of humility and desperation. When Adam and Eve sin and suffer “the death” due to sin, they are ashamed and hide themselves from God- no longer freely roaming in the blessedness of God’s garden as He provided to them. This will later be the story of fleshly Israel as well- they violate the command God gives them and thus suffer shame.”
Adam and Eve are now “dead”, as God told them the day they eat of the tree they shall surely die. God provides them with a covering and removes them from the Garden where they enjoyed God’s presence and possibility of “immortality” through the Tree of Life. From dust they were created, to dust they shall return.”
Also, the topic of corruption, which Mike Holloway seems to want to relate to the physical human experience, this can be simple clarified by gaining what I refer to as a ‘narrative understanding’ of the topic. Simple go to BlueLetterBible.com and type in the words ‘corrupt’ and ‘corruption’ and survey the Scriptures that pertain to that topic. What became corrupt and why in the Old Testament? How does Jesus and all that was promised regarding the Messiah in the Old and New Testament deliver man from that corruption?
I mentioned the all too often ‘presumptive thinking’ that is brought to the debate table with Futurists, rather than sincere examination, especially regarding the Church Fathers. Caleb did a great job mentioning issues with the Didache and also Church Fathers, which rather than understanding his point, Mike Holloway took opportunity to highlight a side issue (what he talked about regarding ‘prescriptive’ and ‘descriptive’ details). It was all too clear that Mike Holloway fails to see how and why much of his perspective is not properly studied out, nor in line with the Biblical narrative. For example, Mike Holloway tried to highlight that because Romans 8:21 used to word “creation” (ktisis in the Greek), that this must mean physical creation. Well, not only is that out-of-context regarding a proper understanding of Romans 8, in line with the “creation” that was corrupted due to the Law (of Moses), sin, and death. The Apostle’s understood “creation” to be far more limited than all physical creation in texts such as 2 Corinthians 5:17; Colossians 1:23 1 Peter 2:13. Also, Mike Holloway continued to borrow points from texts without seeking their Old Testament context. For example, in citing 1 Corinthians 15:4, he asserts this is all about Christ’s physical resurrection, when actually is was a citation, (“according to the Scriptures”), from Hosea 6:2.
Caleb, from the very start of the debate, demonstrated the importance of taking seriously the imminent expectation of the first century Christians and time-statements, listing verses such as 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (wherein we read that some would be “alive and remain” up until the coming of the Lord), the last days mentioned in James 5:7-10 and Hebrews 10:36-37, and “that generation” of Matthew 24:34 (cf. Numbers 32:13).
Mike Holloway tried to affirm that 1 Thessalonians 4:16 could not have happened yet because “the Lord Himself” must come physically. Caleb responded by citing Amos 2:9-10, how the Lord Himself led Israel out of Egypt. Nothing about that phrase demands a physical appearance of the Lord.
Overall, Caleb Graham did a great job demonstrating the power of preterism (a past and Spiritual resurrection) and the flaws of the futurist view when it comes to a future and physical resurrection.
You too can watch and review the debate between Caleb Graham and Mike Holloway regarding the ‘resurrection of the dead’ at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7o3VcoGMAc&t=8s
Michael Miano, pastor
The Blue Point Bible Church