On this past week’s Preterist Power Hour, cohosts Michael Miano & Edward, welcomed a guests named Ivan to join the show. Pastor Miano shared how he had met Ivan, who was a speaker at a recent study group, that he had attended regarding identifying “Mystery Babylon”. Rather than just talk about some of the things he (Ivan) mentioned, especially regarding eschatology/end times, we welcomed him to join us on the show. Highlighting Ivan’s presented, we talked though points from the books of Daniel and Revelation, as well as Matthew 23-24, in regards to “Mystery Babylon”.
On this week’s podcast of the Preterist Power Hour, co-hosts, Michael Miano & Edward Howell, reviewed some presentations from the recent Spirit & Life Lectures. You can watch this week’s podcast at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv6mPrW-CdI
While Edward mentioned needing to mark out time to properly view the lectures, Michael Miano was eager to share some of this thoughts regarding John Watson, Scott Klaft, and Mario Beasley Sr.’s presentations.
This next week’s Preterist Power Hour, 8/26, will be canceled. However, we look forward to further reviewing the Spirit & Life Lectures, the following Tuesday, 9/2.
Don’t forget to make your plans to join us for the 7th Annual BPBC Bible Conference – Not One Stone Left: Restored & Complete – this October 8th -10th, 2021. The following link has travel and lodging info, as well as a tentative schedule for the conference (also see attached graphic), http://www.bluepointbiblechurch.org/peace/?page_id=2637
At the beginning of the month of August, a group of Church of Christ preachers who are convinced of Fulfilled Eschatology (i.e., Full Preterism), got together at the Church of Christ Ludington and offered up lectures for the 6th Annual Spirit & Life Lectures.
You can listen to our 2-part review of the lectures on the Preterist Power Hour at the following links:
I enjoyed John Watson’s points about the apostasy that captivated so many in the first century. I also appreciated his bringing up the Apostle Peter’s falling into that camp for a bit (therefore it wasn’t and isn’t too hard to stray cf. Galatians 2:11-13). I was reminded of Dr. Don K. Preston‘s teaching of “Silence of the Church (pt. 1)” where he brought up Matthew 24:10-11.
Also, attaching it to future generations and the ability of error, even in those many refer erroneously to as “church fathers”.
“In my personal experience, allowing people to direct the the direction of the study is how we get distracted in these things”. – Scott Klaft
“Time-limiting-qualifying statements” – true or not?
Scott makes much of his case for preterism based on the “time determines the nature” argument.
The one text – Matthew 5:18
“Let’s establish the historical context before trying to convince people of the implications and the side-subjects, the many different things we might get distracted by. I believe it will make us more successful in effecting Spiritual maturity in the Church and giving increase to the glory of God”. – Scott Klaft I thoroughly enjoyed Scott Klaft‘s presentation and his premise of knowing the times versus being distracted (as demonstrated in Matthew 16:1-3). Scott highlighted the “time-limiting-qualifying statements” as what should be the focus of our study and he makes his for preterism based on the “time determines the nature” argument (which I agree very much with). Scott marked out Matthew 5:18 as the “one text” that should stir all to consider fulfilled bible prophecy (i.e., Full Preterism). Two great points that Scott made that I quote him on are:
“In my personal experience, allowing people to direct the the direction of the study is how we get distracted in these things”
“Let’s establish the historical context before trying to convince people of the implications and the side-subjects, the many different things we might get distracted by. I believe it will make us more successful in effecting Spiritual maturity in the Church and giving increase to the glory of God”
I agree with Mario Watson Beasley Sr. about how simple these things are, and yet the Futurist wants to confuse them. I taught a sermon series a few years back on the “One New Man” that correlates well with what Beasley is saying. Glory to God.
“Saving of the righteous remnant, which would occur at the time of the judgement of Israel, judgement and salvation of Israel go hand in hand”. – Mario Watson Beasley Sr. “At the sound of the last trumpet, the mystery of God was fulfilled. Israel and Gentiles together in the Body of Christ by the Gospel is the mystery of God. The fulfillment of the mystery of God is the Church.” – Mario Watson Beasley Sr.
A great topic indeed, because just as Mario Watson Beasley Sr. marked out, the hope of Israel as outlined by understanding the Gospel and the mystery of God is so simple, but the Futurist wants to confuse the details (to correlate with what Scott Klaft spoke about – they get distracted). Mario brought up many good texts to affirm his points, namely demonstrating, “Saving of the righteous remnant, which would occur at the time of the judgement of Israel, judgement and salvation of Israel go hand in hand”. Mario concluded his message with a great affirmation that we cleave to as Christians, “At the sound of the last trumpet, the mystery of God was fulfilled. Israel and Gentiles together in the Body of Christ by the Gospel is the mystery of God. The fulfillment of the mystery of God is the Church.”
Contrary to popular thought, the devil was not destroyed at the cross (cf. Romans 16:20; Revelation 20:10)
“The Kingdom wasn’t complete TILL he reigned over all nations with the “rod of iron” = the unbendable Gospel. And He had to rule in the midst of His enemies until He could rule over them”. – Brent Bischel
Matthew 5:3 – “the poor in Spirit” = those who want to know more! “One of the ways that I find it easiest to learn about a topic is to study the opposite and compare it to the real thing”. – Steven Baisden Compare and contrast Matthew 5 with Galatians 5. “I want to move into a house fully built, with a roof over my head”. – Steven Baisden “Instead of a restoration movement, the Church should be pleading for the restitution movement”. – Steven Baisden
“I know full well how we are trained, we are trained to emphasize the New Testament teaching, we separate that from the Old, and we don’t see that the New Testament is simply the fulfillment of the old promises. And if our teaching doesn’t square with the Old Testament is it s false doctrine. It is!” – Holger Neubauer
1 Corinthians 15 cf. Hosea 6; 13:14
William Bell on 1 Cor 15. Hosea 6
3 Witnesses – John 20:26-27 (Thomas); Acts 9 (Saul of Tarsus/ Paul); Acts 7 (Stephen) What did they see?
Holger’s last thoughts on baptism, namely bringing us to , led me to write the following on Facebook, “”Water baptism must often-times be assumed into texts, rather than understanding the immersion, to be something beyond the physical experience of a person, which is the true importance and demonstration of being found in Christ.” – Pastor Michael Miano
On this past week’s podcast of the Preterist Power Hour we returned back to our discussion and review of Tim King’s book, Give Me This Mountain. Specifically., Michael Miano & Edward Howell talked through Transmillennialism (and talked of possibly returning to the topic soon), Max King’s book – The Cross & The Parousia, as well as the Preterist conferences and magazines that were being offered back in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s (as well as mentioning new ones). View and review the podcast at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCxDcEmvKWs
On this week’s podcast of the Preterist Power Hour, cohosts – Michael Miano & Edward Howell continued talking through how the Thessalonians were effected by the destruction of Jerusalem, namely, how the destruction of Jerusalem brought clarity of thought, vengeance upon persecutions, and relief from persecution to the Thessalonian Christians. Michael Miano shared quite a bit about how his paradigm shifted regarding who the persecutors were in Thessalonica, and how the relief was obtained.
Attached you will find graphics for 2 upcoming Preterist conferences – Spirit & Life Lectureships happening this week in Ludington, Michigan and Not One Stone Left Conference happening in October at The Blue Point Bible Church.
Cohosts Michael Miano & Edward Howell continued there study and discussion through Thessalonians, namely how the Thessalonians were to be saved from the “wrath to come”. Quite a bit of discussion was had regarding verses marked out in 1st Thessalonians.
These were the 1st Thessalonians texts were marked out as pertinent to this study: 1:10, 2:2, 2:14-16, 2:19-20, 3:2-4; 3:13; 4:13-18; 5:1-11
Parousia Sunday aka New Jerusalem Day (which is celebrated by the Preterist community the 1st Sunday of August) was mentioned. You can find more information about that at the following link, https://adammaarschalk.com/tag/new-jerusalem/
On this past Thursday’s, Preterist Power Hour, 7/22, Michael Miano and Edward Howell co-hosted a study session discussing how the Thessalonians were affected by the “wrath to come” and how that relates to the Roman-Jewish War, as well as the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. We read through 1st & 2nd Thessalonians.
On this podcast session of Preterist Power Hour, co-hosts Michael Miano & Edward Howell, share further details about the two foundational debates Max King had back in 1973 (with Gus Nichols) and in 1975 (with Jim McGuiggan), they talked a bit about the Thessalonians and AD 70 (with more details coming next week), and share some thoughts about this year’s currently happening, Preterist Pilgrim Weekend.
The following resources were mentioned on the podcast:
Last week, Dr. Don K. Preston and the Preterist Research Institute (www.eschatology.org) hosted a virtual 2021 Preterist Pilgrim Weekend. In this blog, you can find YouTube links to each of the messages, as well as some of my notes for some of the messages.
Song of Moses (Pt. 1) – Dr. Don K. Preston
Dr. Preston highlighted that Jesus Christ and the Apostles sang the song of Moses to that wicked and perverse generation (cf. Duet. 32:5; Matthew 17:17; Acts 2:40).
Leviticus 23 and Daniel 9: Fulfillment of Israel’s Covenant Curses Part 1 – Al Pershon
I was totally blessed by reading through the prayer of Daniel.
The Marriage of the Lamb: Fulfillment of OT and NT- The Story of God’s Love Part 1 – Scott Fisher
Scott demonstrated that Dueteronomy 28-32 outlines the wrath of God proclamation that Christ and the Apostles declared against Jerusalem in that generation (including the Book of Revelation). He also brought up the following two verses: Psalm 81:15 &Luke 21:20
Song of Moses (Pt. 2) – Dr. Don K. Preston
The New Exodus and The Great City – Daniel Rogers
Daniel made it clear that Jesus, unlike Solomon, fulfilled the expectations of the role of David’s son”. Also he mentioned, “As the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Jesus humbled Himself and was reborn of the Spirit. Entering Christ means entering His death and resurrection”. And highlighting the need for the “new exodus”, Daniel asserted, “”Though Judah returned from Babylon, the two nations were not yet united”. The following link will not only bring you to both of Daniel’s teachings for PPW, but will also let you download his PowerPoint, https://labornotinvain.com/2021/07/17/2021-ppw-lessons/
(Special Presentation)-The Millennium and the Second Exodus (Pt. 1) – Robert Cruickshank
(Special Presentation)-The Millennium and the Second Exodus (Pt. 2) – Robert Cruickshank
The Marriage of the Lamb: Fulfillment of OT and NT- The Story of God’s Love Part 2 – Scott Fisher
Song of Moses (Pt. 3) – Dr. Don K. Preston
Leviticus 23 and Daniel 9: Fulfillment of Israel’s Covenant Curses Part 2 – Al Pershon
The New Exodus and the New Heavens and New Earth – Daniel Rogers
Daniel marked out that by the first century, Jerusalem had become spiritual Sodom (cf.Duet. 32:32; Ezekiel 16:49).