Article submitted by Dallas Kobylka, Better Understanding the Bible (YouTube)
3/23 – Preterist Power Hour w/ The Wrue’s
Yesterday, Pete & Rachael Wrue joined us for a Preterist Power Hour to share parts of their testimony, tell us about their recently published book, and announced to us that they are working on another book. You can review our discussion on YouTube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mDGxxaKtCg
Being that it was a #ThrowbackThursday, we mentioned the past interview Pete & Rachael did with The Burros of Berea Podcast, which you can listen to, or re-listen to, at the following link, https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/757890/
Some other #ThrowbackThursday resources that were mentioned:
2015 – Discussion between 2 Pastors on the Biblical Narrative
2016 – “End Times Conference” at The Blue Point Bible Church
https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/flashbackfriday-2016-end-times-conference/
The Return of Christ: Why Are We Still Waiting?
“A humble, fresh approach” – Rick Welch, Burros of Berea
“This book is awesome” – Cherry Lewis, Burros of Berea
To order, you can find them and communicate with them on Facebook, or email Pete – pdubyah@gmail.com
Otherwise, you can order directly through Amazon at the following link, https://www.amazon.com/Return-Christ-Why-still-waiting/dp/B0BCNZQ5YH/ref=sr_1_1?crid=379JKB8TJ3PZI&keywords=pete+wrue&qid=1679661675&sprefix=pete+wrue%2Caps%2C571&sr=8-1
Spring 2023 – Fulfilled! Magazine
https://www.fulfilledcg.com/Magazine/previous-issues-2021-2025.htm
Reformation & Revival w/Ward Fenley
“Preterism will unleash a new vitality inn the modern church because it naturally suggests a kingdom focus for all of life”. – Beyond Creation Science
You can listen to our discussion with Ward Fenley regarding reformation & revival at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eg7k_0rTx4
The sermon that initiated the “Asbury Revival” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGvvGbgUmMU
Ward Fenley’s teachings on “Messianic Corporate Revival”
(1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqpG5f-CAL4
(2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDE9tdU3rec
(3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhSocALMAZE
(4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5VWQpT927E
(5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCaZldJhn8
“Everyday is an opportunity for revival” – Ward Fenley
“We should never expect someone to believe our subjectective experience” – Ward Fenley
“Revival = acknowledgement of God’s greatness” – Ward Fenley
“The revival of the church and the ministry became my supreme concern”. – Dietrich Bonhoeffer
“No revival, no reformation, can do what a radical reframation of Bible prophecy and the Gospel in their proper context can do = “zeal empowered by knowledge”. – Michael Miano
#WisdomWednesday Resource Dump
Articles related to our Genesis studies:
Testifying Tuesday blog – https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2023/02/28/tuesday-testifying-preterist-resources/
Steve Gregg book review – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2023/03/05/a-contradictory-preface-why-not-full-preterism-book-review/
Sermon & Blog from Michael Miano:
Sunday Sermon – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2023/03/06/old-testament-texts-syllogisms-debates-1-corinthians-15-pt-2-crazycorinthians/
Lord, Help Us… – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2023/01/31/lord-help-us-your-church-seems-so-confused/
Edward Howell’s “Four Promises” – https://thinkingthroughtheologyedhowell.wordpress.com/2023/03/02/four-promises/
Dallas Kobylka’s latest video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQye7E8d14
Article from Dallas – https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2023/03/08/following-in-the-footsteps-of-fathers/
Preterist Voice Magazine (March 2023) – https://fulfilledmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/March-Magazine.pdf
Following In The Footsteps of Fathers
Article submitted by Dallas Kobylka of Better Understanding the Bible (on YouTube).
Tuesday Testifying – Preterist Resources
Yesterday, 2/27, we had a short video session of the Preterist Power Hour. Quite a few resources were mentioned.
Be sure to review last Friday’s update, wherein a host of resources were mentioned. Visit the following link to access that blog, https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2023/02/25/flashback-flashforward-preterist-power-hour/
Tuesday night study with Mike Miano on “the hope of Israel” (Pt. 30) – https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2023/02/24/a-contextual-study-on-the-hope-of-israel-resurrection-of-the-dead-pt-30/
Michael Miano also offered a Pt. 1 sermon on 1 Corinthians chapter 15 this past Sunday at The Blue Point Bible Church. You can review that audio and the sermon notes at the following link, https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2023/02/26/old-testament-texts-syllogisms-debates-1-corinthians-15-pt-1-crazycorinthians/
We mentioned two men of God who passed into eternity this week, Dr. Michael Heiser & Mr. Max King. Both men were giants in the faith. Consider the following quotes and resources to review;
Dr. Michael Heiser
Dr. Michael Heiser shared, “The Biblical writers are not us. They don’t think like we do. It’s high time that we ask ourselves questions like, “Wow, is it coherent to think that, if I were able to have an Israelite or 1st century Jew living in my head, I might look look at Scripture differently because they were who they were?. They are writing to people who were like them. They’re not us, and they’re not writing to us. Yes, they’re writing for our benefit. But at the end of the day, they had their own worldview. They had their own audience…it just makes sense to read it through the eyes and ears of the audience”.
Resource links:
https://mianogonewild.wordpress.com/2016/12/14/spiritual-stuff-disagreeing-with-dr-michael-heiser/
Mr. Max King
“We are never too old to learn and change for the better.” – Max King
The Holy Scripture teaches that the 2nd coming of Christ, including the establishment of the Eternal Kingdom, the end of the world, and the resurrection of the dead occured with the fall of Judaism in AD 70″. – Max King
Max King, in his book “The Cross and the Parousia”, page 9 puts it this way, “…the primary aim of Christ’s Messianic reign (His pre-end-of-the-age reign) was the resurrection of the dead by means of the age-consummation defeat of sin and death.”
Resource links:
https://powerofpreterism.wordpress.com/2021/05/21/book-review-give-me-this-mountain-tim-king/
#Flashback #FlashForward Preterist Power Hour
On today’s, 2/24, Preterist Power Hour we highlighted quite a few resources.
You can review the Preterist Power Hour on YouTube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPgTBe2k7o0
You can also review the following link of resources for your further edification;
The message that started the Asbury Revival – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGvvGbgUmMU
Ward Fenley’s recently messages on revival found at – https://www.youtube.com/@ncmilive/videos
The sermon preached against FP at Benoni Church of Christ in South Africa – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLFzW3sRx0
Happy Birthday Tim Martin!
Tim Martin Teaches; check out the latest Daniel Sermon Series uploads – https://timmartinteaches.wordpress.com/2023/02/09/daniel-sermon-series/
Holger Neubauer has been reviewing the prophets. You will find his Facebook link following this passage, however, soon we might catalogue some of his “Prophet Studies”. Here is his Facebook link – https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008114506624
“The Hope of Israel” – by Gary DeMar & Kim Burgess – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hope-of-israel/id1664297952?i=1000600837439
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“Heavy Lifting” w/ Gary Demar – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/heavy-lifting-with-uncle-gary/id1616545866
2/14 – Rick Welch on PPH – Testimony & Resources
Yesterday, 2/14/23, we interviewed Rich Welch from The Burros of Berea Podcast on the Preterist Power Hour. You can review the session on YouTube at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlRgAnucVtk
At the beginning of the session, Michael Miano mentioned a “Return To Your First Love” Sermon Series he had preached years ago. You can visit the following link to find the various sermons series preached at The Blue Point Bible Church (simply scroll down a few series and you will see the host of sermons in the aforementioned series) – https://www.bluepointbiblechurch.org/peace/?page_id=2175
Listen to Michael Miano’s testimonial interview on The Burros of Berea Podcast – https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/774410/
Olivet Discourse Series:
(In order)
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/360994/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/373769/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/380683/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/395113/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/401707/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/415557/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/439092/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/455258/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/469035/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/660657/
Current Hebrews podcasts:
(In order)
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/566429/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/765419/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/788972/
Hebrews Commentary by Tony Denton & more – https://www.asiteforthelord.com/bibleinterandtools/
Current Ruth podcasts:
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/773024/
https://rss.com/podcasts/burrosofberea/824077/
Ruth Sermon by Mike Miano – https://www.buzzsprout.com/11630/272338-mother-s-day-the-story-of-ruth?fbclid=IwAR3vIuDzv6KuBFztLjULWn8vpUliMoXD9AR693X2AJ3M2mY7jQrElHgDd18
Rick mentioned the following resources;
Gary Demar Podcast – https://garydemar.libsyn.com/
Covenant Hermeneutics & Biblical Eschatology Podcast – https://sites.libsyn.com/453213
Smartless podcast – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868
Kingdom Talk w/Daniel Rogers on PPH
On 2/13/23, Daniel Rogers joined us on the Preterist Power Hour to talk through his recent book, some recent ‘Kingdom’ sermons he has preached, and a host of other resources. You can review the interview at the following YouTube link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcFYwabQhL8
Daniel’s recently published book, How A 25 Year Old Learned He Wasn’t The Only One Going To Heaven, can be ordered at the following link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcFYwabQhL8
2 recent sermon:
- Kingdom Anticipated – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pFp9McUX1Y
- Kingdom Realized – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbalMMtmKx0
Daniel’s blog – https://danielr.net/
Podcasts – https://danielr.net/podcasts/
Daniel Rogers will be joining us for The Kingdom & Worldview Conference, Oct. 6-8,. 2023, at The Blue Point Bible Church.
You can review the 2021 conference sessions with Daniel Rogers at the following link;
The Curse: In The Preterist Perspective
By James (Jim) Robert Kessler
Originally Posted July 15th, 2009 on DeathIsDefeated.Ning
What exactly is the nature of the curse we are introduced to in the Genesis account and how do we reconcile it with the Preterist perspective of past fulfillment? The answer isn’t as difficult to understand as one might think.
Some of the conversation as of late has focused upon Eve being the mother of all living, but it should be addressed in the context of the curse as well, because she is so named after the curse that God has just issued in the previous several passages beginning in Genesis 3 v.16. The curse imputed in Genesis 3 is the precursor to the Hebrew writing addressing the significance of Eve being “mother of all living”. This is an important point because Isaiah 65 deconstructs this same curse and how it relates the the covenant line that gave us Jesus Christ. A line that began with Adam and Eve.
Here is the curse as we first read it in Scripture.
Genesis 3:16-17 – “To the woman He said: “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception. In pain shall you bring forth children; Your desire shall be for your husband. And he shall rule of you”. And to Adam He said: “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and you have eaten from the tree which I commanded you, saying, “You shall not eat of it”. “Cursed is the ground for your sake: In toil shall you eat of it, all the days of your life”.
Genesis 3:19 – “In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground. For out of it you were taken; for dust you are, and to dust you shall return”.
That was the curse that God pronounced. And this is God’s decree which begins the history of Adam’s descendants till the time Titus unleashes his legions upon Jerusalem and the end of ‘the power of the holy people’ we read of in Daniel’s prophecy. The “I will greatly multiply your sorrows and your conception: in pain shall you bring forth children”, is the language of a nation that through suffering would one day be fully redeemed.
Daniel 12:7 – “Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, then he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished”.
This is the beauty of covenant language. Now let’s go look at Genesis 3:20 and where Scripture calls, Eve the mother of all the living, Daniel’s “holy people”, because it is from the mouth of God that we discover who these “holy people” are when we look at the story of Abraham and “his only son, Isaac”. This is the perspective God saw the son (Isaac) born of the free woman. It is in covenant perspective.
Genesis 3:20 – “And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.”
It is after God curses them that Adam named his wife, Eve. Now concerning Abraham, when we think about him and his offspring, we think about the two lines that came from his loins. The line from Isaac and the lined produced from Ishmael. Listen to God as He addresses this “mother of all living” issue concerning the covenant language of God’s chosen people. No where else in Scripture illustrates this better than in Genesis 22:2 where God makes an odd statement concerning Isaac because it seems Ishmael is non-existent.
Genesis 22:2 – “Then He (God) said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, who you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you”.
Now in that context, let’s deal with the issue of the curse and how it should be properly applied to Eve and her title of being called the mother of all living in the Preterist paradigm. The curse which begins in Genesis 3 finds its conclusion in Isaiah’s prophecy in chapter 65.
Let’s do the comparisons.
Genesis 3:16 – “To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; In pain shall you bring forth children; your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you”.
Isaiah 65:23-25 – “They shall not labor in vain, nor bring forth children for trouble; for they shall be the descendants of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them. It shall come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are still speaking, I will hear”.
Notice what we’re talking about here. “I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; in pain shall you bring forth children”. We are talking about the suffering and anguish of God’s chosen race born of Adam. AD 70 was about that curse being lifted and the thing that was once cursed has become a blessing for all people. That is what makes our Preterist perspective so very powerful.
Genesis 3:19 – “In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground. For our of it you were taken; for dust you are, and to dust you shall return”.
Isaiah 65:25 – “The wold and the lamb shall feed together, the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And dust shall be the serpent’s food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain”, says the Lord”.
‘And dust shall be the serpents food’. Can I get an Amen. No more curse, no more pain, and God fulfils His promises concerning His first born of the covenant, Adam and Eve. He does that in the person and His express image, Jesus Christ.
The ‘sin’ of the garden was disobedience which caused separation from God in the eternal sense. The power of the cross was Christ’s total obedience to the Father’s will and our reconciliation with God. This is the whole theme of covenant.
Eve was the mother of all those under the curse and was given her name in accordance with that designation. She was also the mother of the one’s who were redeemed upon the arrival of the new heavens and earth, that we read and rejoice over in Isaiah’s account of the restoration of all things.
POWER OF PRETERISM 